M1009: Steering shaft replacement?

I_Publius · Aug 27, 2016

I'm having trouble disassembling the upper steering shaft from the lower steering shaft? TM manual says to separate, but not how to get them unstuck.

How do I separate the upper from the coupling?

I have most of the original column out, but can't get this part to come apart.

Suggestions??

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I_Publius · Aug 27, 2016

I'm using TM9-2320-289-20, 8-17, but it doesn't give enough information.

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cucvrus · Aug 27, 2016

Spray some lubricant on the slip joint of the intermediate shaft between the column and the steering box. Take the M10 bolt from the bottom of the column shaft under the hood. Tap the column towards the steering box. Then take the 7/16 / 11MM 12 point bolt out of the end at the steering box shaft and tap that off. You now have the intermediate shaft removed. Clean it up and reinstall in the reverse of removal. I hope that helps.

I_Publius · Aug 27, 2016

Thank you! I'll try that later this afternoon. I appreciate the insight.

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cucvrus · Aug 29, 2016

Progress report? https://youtu.be/Re72di5phM0

I_Publius · Aug 29, 2016

Wound up having a full weekend with family. The plan is to try at it later this afternoon. I'll give an update at that time.

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I_Publius · Aug 29, 2016

Got it out.

Used heat, a hammer, and put the steering wheel back on temporarily to have leverage for pulling.

Question now is whether or not the coupler needs to be replaced while I'm there?

How do you know if it needs to be replaced and if it does, are the parts readily accessible?

I'm replacing the original with a tilt column from an '86 civi K5.

Pics below.

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cucvrus · Aug 29, 2016

I would get a replacement intermediate shaft whether it be used or new. That rag joint needs replaced. They do have a U joint replacement shaft but I never used one and do not know the details or part number. I hope that helps.

I_Publius · Aug 29, 2016

That matches with what my gut was telling me. I'll start looking for a replacement while everything is apart.

Thanks!

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cucvrus · Aug 29, 2016

I googled it and found several choices. Some as high as $225. That seems like the way to go. Unless you have a YOUPULLIT near by. Good Luck. If you need to reuse your intermediate shaft and just replace the rag joint.

richingalveston · Aug 29, 2016

save yourself time later, and get better steering. purchase a bourgeson steering shaft. replacement. It has all u joints, no rag joint. much better and last longer.

cucvrus · Aug 29, 2016

Longer then 32 years? Wow I will be surprised if the truck even exists then. I would say the original rag joint lasted 30+ years and is still going it did well in my world.

richingalveston · Aug 29, 2016

they only last a few years in good condition with no slop,
They last forever with all the slop.

most of the time the steering slop is in the rag joint and not the box
get a non rag joint and you will know the difference.

I_Publius · Aug 29, 2016

I went to the Bourgeson site and could not find the part without a rag joint. I was looking in the k5 Blazer section. Do I need to search for another application?

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richingalveston · Aug 29, 2016

http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/product.php?productid=1449&cat=34&page=1

you need to cut the two shaft sections correctly in order to get the proper fit. It is supposed to collapse on impact so the steering wheel does not kill you.
It is not a direct bolt in part, does have to be fit but can be done with a hack saw and is easy to do.

Ilikemtb999 · Aug 30, 2016

I'm running an XJ shaft. They have metal u joints and nearly bolt in. Plenty of write ups about it and cost $10-15 at a yard.

rustystud · Aug 31, 2016

I replaced mine with a stainless steel unit with U-joints from "Borgeson" . It has worked great for 10 years now.

I_Publius · Sep 3, 2016

Working on the new shaft from Borgerson. Ordered the one that should work, but now I'm worried that the donor column does not fit the new U joint.

The new joint does not want to slip on the steering column upper shaft.

I have tried tapping it gently, but it's not going on.

Any suggestions?

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I_Publius · Sep 4, 2016

I_Publius said:
Working on the new shaft from Borgerson. Ordered the one that should work, but now I'm worried that the donor column does not fit the new U joint.

The new joint does not want to slip on the steering column upper shaft.

I have tried tapping it gently, but it's not going on.

Any suggestions?

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cucvrus · Sep 4, 2016

Yes that definitely looks like it is not going to fit. That looks expensive. Sorry I can't help you. I still have the rag joints on all my trucks. I am sure my new Chevy has u joints but that also has electric steering. On that replacement are you supposed to use set screws?

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