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Thread: I need to borrow an 87-89 USAF dual circuit master cyl. mount temporarily

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    That's gonna be a good trick to manufacture

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    Yeah that doesnt look like a simple piece to reproduce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidWymore View Post
    That's gonna be a good trick to manufacture
    Quote Originally Posted by yolner View Post
    Yeah that doesnt look like a simple piece to reproduce.

    Well, in the nearly 30 years since the last dual circuit M44A2s left the assy. line, only M-series restoration has managed it but at a pricepoint that no one could afford. And I'm not sure it even took the correct master cylinder.

    But I'm not your average guy and I have some people helping me who are extremely competent. We'll see what happens.
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    Actually would be nice to do it with a different (easier to find) MC. Either way I'll probably be one of your first customers. Always worry about those brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinto View Post
    Well, in the nearly 30 years since the last dual circuit M44A2s left the assy. line, only M-series restoration has managed it but at a pricepoint that no one could afford. And I'm not sure it even took the correct master cylinder.

    But I'm not your average guy and I have some people helping me who are extremely competent. We'll see what happens.

    Oh, I'm sure you'll get it done, no worries there, just noticing its gonna be an accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidWymore View Post
    Oh, I'm sure you'll get it done, no worries there, just noticing its gonna be an accomplishment.
    Biggest fear is what's it is going to cost. I need to get it done at a price point that people can afford.
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    If you make that as a casting, the tooling cost will be too high even in China. I haven't tooled anything that size, but about half as large with similar complexity was north of $10k with a piece price of around $10 using ADC 6 or 12.

    Your best bet is to fabricate that as a weldment. Depending on how much machining you have to do, I would expect the piece cost to around $1k. If you are good at welding and machining, you can get all the pieces laser cut and assemble/finish it yourself for half the cost or better.

    Good project, I'm looking forward to seeing the finished piece.
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    I agree. Plasma would be cheapest but laser or water more accurate. Could probably cut the bolt holes and pilot/locator in the plates close enough with either of the latter. Some cutting tables have milling/drilling/tapping heads to speed up those processes. Cut the pieces out with tabs and notches so they interlock and locate each other, weld together and weld tubes in with inside bores undersize, bore to finished size after welding.

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    I have been gathering the parts to convert mine to a dual circuit system. The bracket is one of the few items that I am missing. Was figuring on fabricating one out of steel. Which will be much cheaper than the figures quoted above. Following to see what you come up with.

    Mike

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