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    I actually hooked up my tan M101A2 today and moved it about 300 feet with my M1008A1
    It’s still hooked up and ready to receive firewood as I cut it this weekend.

    Has been almost two months since I’ve touched it.
    Out of state for almost that entire time.

    Way too long.........
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    Rebuilt the surge brake assembly on my 101A2. New master cylinder, new shock, new "bearings" (bushings). After all that, the hole to insert a pin to lock out the brake STILL didn't line up. I have no choice but to believe that some of these trailers never had the holes all line up so you could insert a pin all the way through. I had no choice but to drill it out.

    Of couse the copper sealing washers on the bolt going into the master cylinder are leaking now, so I need to try and source replacements. Hopefully i can find something locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotty View Post
    Rebuilt the surge brake assembly on my 101A2. New master cylinder, new shock, new "bearings" (bushings). After all that, the hole to insert a pin to lock out the brake STILL didn't line up. I have no choice but to believe that some of these trailers never had the holes all line up so you could insert a pin all the way through. I had no choice but to drill it out.

    Of couse the copper sealing washers on the bolt going into the master cylinder are leaking now, so I need to try and source replacements. Hopefully i can find something locally.
    My M1101 didn't have any holes for a lock out bolt at all....so I drilled and put one in that stops the main shaft. There really is only one good spot to drill on the 1101 brake actuator that is apparent when it's apart.

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    Finally got a tailgate that lays flat on the M101A2

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    Nice Looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobyS View Post
    My M1101 didn't have any holes for a lock out bolt at all....so I drilled and put one in that stops the main shaft. There really is only one good spot to drill on the 1101 brake actuator that is apparent when it's apart.
    You donít need the lockout to back up a 1101/2.
    They have the freeback brakes.
    I installed them (Dexter) on mine (M101A2ís) and they work great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinstar View Post
    You donít need the lockout to back up a 1101/2.
    They have the freeback brakes.
    I installed them (Dexter) on mine (M101A2ís) and they work great.
    Yea, I know about the freeback. But I don't have the hydraulic line replaced yet and brakes bled.... yet still want to move around and don't want it pushing on the master cylinder. Parts inside had suffered bending before i got the trailer. I have made all straight again and knew the line would be a last item. This was a trailer that GP could not get a bid on and I bought for $200.....so lots of things wrong and bent.

    If there is a brake problem where the brakes do not stop the trailer, there is a long distance to travel to be stopped by thin metal and a spring loaded MC. Mine must have had issues. It looked as if it operated without working brakes for a while (hitting hard when taking off or stopping)...like 1 1/2" or so. The bolt makes that travel less than 1/16"...so essentially rigid.

    I don't know what inside the drums looks like yet. My 1/2 ton seems to stop it fine (I'm not going on the highway) for around here. When the build is a bit further, I'll fix the brakes right and take the bolt out. Maybe freebacking never fails and I'll never need it again.

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    I figured you already knew but posted that just in case.
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    OK, please explain freeback axles to the noobie. Pretty please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOBASH View Post
    OK, please explain freeback axles to the noobie. Pretty please.
    Short for "free backing". The (surge) brakes release when the trailer is pushed backward, where normally without such a thing, one would have to put the locking pin in prior to backing up (which these trailers are not equipped with normally). Some surge brakes have an electric solenoid lock pin that comes on (locks) when the reverse lights come on, preventing brakes from actuating.

    Here are some details of my surge brake, I don't have the wheels apart yet to show you the "freeback" mechanism.

    The first photo shows the main body and the hitch/plunger. It hits the crossbar that has the brake MC push rod attached and pushes the plunger back. See the plunger and how the T is bent? The part next to it that mounts the cylinder is also bent in the photo. Those were straightened. Bending that bar and mount tell me that the cylinder was completely bottoming out, taking the force of the stopping trailer.

    If the brakes don't work, that crossbar and plunger take the weight of the stopping trailer after it travels about 1 1/2". The third photo shows position of the bolt that stops the main plunger from acting against the cylinder. It's the only place a pin like that will work with this style surge brake.
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