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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyfang View Post
    Might pay you to make a trip down there and spend a few bucks in a bar, with some workers from the place, and ask them if that's what they are doing. Scrapping gen sets.
    If they were doing this out of the plant that is close to me you bet I'd be doing that. All the tear down seems to occur in Chicago on gensets, at least according to what they told me on the phone. That is a 8 hour drive for me. I really wish they were ripping these down at the location a half hour from my place!!!

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    Not looking to stir up trouble between members here. Daybreak I didn't realize you sold stuff. I thought maybe you were in the market for an engine.

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    So maybe someone else lives closer and can drop by and look?

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    Anyone close to the Adelman's in Chicago that could check this out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkysplace View Post
    So do you have any leads on a DN4M to help smokem joe out ? Have you ever bought from Adelmans ?
    I at least gave him a option to look at . So far all you have done in this thread is try and run down Adelmans products.
    Could it be that you have some DN2M's you can't move ?
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    Nope. no problem.

    I do not know anything about Adelman's. They are probably a good group. A DN2M reman for $450 is a great deal. Even a DN4M which looks wet-stacked for $1300 is good.

    The DN4M is a tough animal to come by. I have not seen even a MEP-813A go for a low price in the last 6 months now. I would suspect that the ones which bid them up do not understand that it is a 400Hz generator.
    The other problem is getting a complete gasket kit to even rebuild a DN4M. Yes, it can be gotten, for a price.

    His best bet might be to show up and look over the DN4M engines they have for sale. There might be a runner which does not look severely wet-stacked. With the pictures of the DN2M and DN4M engines sitting on all the racks, I am sure there is probably a good deal to be had.

    ummm, how much is a 24v starter for a DNxM unit?, how much is a alternator for a DNxM unit? How much is a gasket set? it all adds up quickly.

    I have no problem with the new, in the box DN2M engine which I have. You could buy it and sell the alternator and starter and probably be at the $450 mark too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokem joe View Post
    Not looking to stir up trouble between members here. Daybreak I didn't realize you sold stuff. I thought maybe you were in the market for an engine.
    Howdy,
    It's not a matter of that.
    I am always in the hunt for a DN4M engine at a price.

    I searched out Adelman's on line and online truck trader and others. There just is not many DN4M out there anywwhere else. I would suggest you, or someone physically look over what they have to offer. There could be some good engines there.
    ~~Later Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daybreak View Post
    Howdy,
    Nope. no problem.

    I do not know anything about Adelman's. They are probably a good group. A DN2M reman for $450 is a great deal. Even a DN4M which looks wet-stacked for $1300 is good.

    The DN4M is a tough animal to come by. I have not seen even a MEP-813A go for a low price in the last 6 months now. I would suspect that the ones which bid them up do not understand that it is a 400Hz generator.
    The other problem is getting a complete gasket kit to even rebuild a DN4M. Yes, it can be gotten, for a price.

    His best bet might be to show up and look over the DN4M engines they have for sale. There might be a runner which does not look severely wet-stacked. With the pictures of the DN2M and DN4M engines sitting on all the racks, I am sure there is probably a good deal to be had.

    ummm, how much is a 24v starter for a DNxM unit?, how much is a alternator for a DNxM unit? How much is a gasket set? it all adds up quickly.

    I have no problem with the new, in the box DN2M engine which I have. You could buy it and sell the alternator and starter and probably be at the $450 mark too.
    I suspect the reason the 813s are going as high as they are is just that. Some people are in for a surprise! I just hope they figure it out before they hook up to a building!

    I found genuine gasket sets...to the tune of $500. That's another reason I am looking for a runner. The next auction looks like it has some candidates. It is 2 hours away so I will go do a preinspection to see if I can find him something worth bidding on. Some are for sure parts only units as half of the operating panel is gone.

    If I were closer to Chicago I might be tempted to go in and look through the stock at Adelman's. As their sales guy was only willing to send me pictures of one unit I will not be spending a couple days on the road to go investigate them.

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    Well I had a little time this morning so I took the tractor down and grabbed this unit and put it in my shop. I decided I'd pull the head, if nothing else to see how these engines go together. Experience is better for me than reading in the engine TM! It wasn't as bad as I thought. Only the center two cylinders are rusted, and they might not be bad. The pistons were both close to the top of the stroke and only had another 3/4" or so left from TDC. I dumped some tranny fluid in them to see if it will loosen things up enough to turn over.

    I took the cover off the side to inspect the bottom end. Some rust in there does not look good. Rod caps looked nice and shiny, but some rust on the crank and maybe in the main bearings. I'll try to take pictures. I didn't want to get grease all over my phone at that point.

    Jamawieb have you had rust in the lower end and successfully got them running?

    Some rust on the valves on the two center cylinders on the head. When I get more time I'll take the valve out and see if the seat is bad or if I can maybe polish it back to life.

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    I did look through the preview today. There is a lot of junk in this one. I may have found one for a donor, just have to see where it goes price wise.

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    Somebody has a bunch of junkers. GL had several pages of 803 parts machines that sold middle of last year from the Albany Ga site. Most of the sheet metal was damaged because they had them stacked two and three high. The few I followed went higher than I would have paid. They sold most of them in lots of two. I wonder if you could contact the Albany Ga GL lot and find out where they all went?
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