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    Well I got the Champ running - for about 15 seconds. I think there's a minor fuel delivery problem that should be easy to remedy but the one of the batteries wasn't strong enough to crank more than a couple of times. While the fuel pump is 12v the starter is still 24v so I need to get it running to see what the alternator is putting out. I don't want to have to drag a battery charger around with me to be able to start it. I pulled the generator from the parts truck but couldn't get the lower part of the bracket off and when I took it to a local shop that has always been good with MV stuff he just laughed at me. He said he couldn't do UK stuff as he had no way of knowing how the plug was set up. I don't want to go to all the effort of changing it back to the generator until I can verify I have a working one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkcoen View Post
    I had already promised the parts truck to someone else so hate to take that back.
    He assures me he won't mind. If you need the other engine, take it, that's what a "parts" truck is for.

    There is a shop in Taylor (I know, that's a long way, but the LSMVPA Express can get it there for you) which is really good at rebuilding old generators/alternators. Might be worth asking them if they can do something with it. I'll ask Domingo for the contact info.

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    XM704 Armoured Car
    S404 Unimog (Swiss)
    M185A3
    M109A3
    M1009 (x2)
    M931A2 (x2)
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    Quote Originally Posted by M813rc View Post
    He assures me he won't mind. If you need the other engine, take it, that's what a "parts" truck is for.
    One of the issues is unloading, pulling the engine, and reloading the spare on the trailer. Both the wife and HOA don't want it in the driveway and it was loaded by lifting the front with a forklift while I backed the trailer under it then lifting the rear with same forklift and pushing it on the trailer. That's not going to happen here so I'll simply part ways with the parts truck and worry about the crack somewhere down the road.
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    I got some more information about the vehicles from the Champ Owners Club out of the UK:

    This is the parts truck:

    Chassis No: WN1-10239

    Army Reg No: 02 BF 39

    ENGINE-61965

    Date in Service: 21 SEPTEMBER 1955

    Receipt Voucher: FTM/R/3328/118 [21 BVD FELTHAM]

    S/O: RUDDINGTON 6 AUGUST 1965 [EX TA]

    SOLD OFF: 82nd RUDDINGTON 15 FEBRUARY 1966 LOT-427D [ONE OF 9]

    ASHER LANE VEHICLE PARK.



    And this is the runner:

    Chassis No: WN1-10678

    Army Reg No: 06 BF 78

    ENGINE: N/A BUT WAS CIRCA 62400. ENGINE-5368 IS NEW REPLACEMENT UNIT.

    Date in Service: 24 OCTOBER 1955

    Receipt Voucher: BIC/C/0089/39 [BICESTER CENTRAL ORDNANCE DEPOT]

    S/O: RUDDINGTON 22 JUNE 1967 [EX TA]

    SOLD OFF: 95th RUDDINGTON 8 MAY 1968 LOT-635A [ONE OF 3]

    MOOR END VEHICLE PARK.

    So both of them are '55s and it won't make much difference changing the motor in the runner since it's not the original one any way.
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    So we rented Congo off Amazon tonight (ironic that they're 2 different jungles) and watched the entire thing. I saw a nice Unimog, tons of Land Rovers, a DC 3, and Jimmy Buffett, but no Champs. We rewound it to the point where they first landed in Africa (about 20 minutes in) and watched that section again. Lots of "is that it?" when tiny vehicles went by in the background. We finally spotted it just as Ernie Hudson's character was being introduced. The Champ was driving by in the background and we stopped the movie and I got close to the screen and could tell by the outline of the front and rear fenders that it was a Champ. I'm sure on a full sized movie screen it would have been a lot more obvious but on a 60" TV not so much. Since supposedly mine was the only driving one in the movie I'm going to assume that was it as it was passing by about 100 yards behind the actors.
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    Your Champ is now as famous as the tires on my M813!

    Now, if you could just find a shot of Jimmy Buffet driving the Champ...

    Cheers
    Rory

    M813A1 (USMC)
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    XM704 Armoured Car
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    Drained approximately 19 gallons of the nastiest smelling gas Iíve ever been around out of the Champ. Replaced that with 4 gallons of fresh gas, some Stabil, and a dose of Mechanic in a Bottle. At this point I am getting absolutely zero attempts at the engine firing. I pulled the plug from #1 cylinder and it still smells like old gas so went ahead and pulled all 4 plugs to let the cylinders air out a bit. I need a Soldier B in order to see if Iíve actually got spark so kind of dead in the water at the moment.

    Hereís some pics of the distributor and plugs. Getting #3 and #4 out and back in was a bit challenging.

    I also discovered I have the ultra rare CD player in ammo can option under the driverís seat.
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    Bad gas almost always requires a total fuel system overhaul. Rust and goop will keep plugging filters and sticking floats.

    And I have learned that using bad gas as a weedkiller will ensure that you will smell that gas for at least 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDT View Post
    Bad gas almost always requires a total fuel system overhaul. Rust and goop will keep plugging filters and sticking floats.
    I replaced the filters (2 see-thru units) but haven't been able to find a rebuild kit for the carb and hesitant to start pulling it apart without one. I would think it would at least try to fire even if it won't stay running but I'm not getting anything which is leading me toward the electrical side. The problem with this compared to, say a '57 Chevy, is I can't just go down to NAPA and get a set of points, plugs, and a condenser and swap them out. If I had another person to try starting it while I checked one of the plugs I could at least see if there's fire going to the cylinders.
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    Had some assistance this afternoon and we verified there was a nice fat spark so the coil, distributor, and plugs are working properly. Next we pulled the oil bath air cleaner and squirted some ether down while cranking the engine.

    And we have FIRE! (actually even set the throat of the air cleaner on fire with the starting fluid). Unfortunately once the starting fluid stopped so did the engine. It would appear that we have a carb issue so next up is either finding a rebuild kit or a new(er) carb and go from there. Progress, while so ever slight, is still Progress.
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