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    Quote Originally Posted by 2deuce View Post
    One thing to think about is how you are going to load it. Communicate that expense to the seller and the difficulty involved. They know already how heavy it is because of the difficulty they had, and don't underestimate it. Does it have a data plate or a builder? Good luck!
    Excellent suggestion - And it's one I've already "played". I have not yet found a data plate on it.

    UPDATE:

    Before I took the next step, I prayed about how to go about this. I am a firm believer in the power of prayer. I have also dreamed that this K53 could well serve as a CHAPLAIN'S VEHICLE. So, in a great step of faith.....

    After a very brief visit Sunday I told the couple that I'd be composing a letter to them with a proposal. Today, I had time to put some polish on the draft.

    In essence I am asking that the K53 Box Van Body be DONATED to a restoration project worthy of her father's attempt to preserve it. In appreciation of "Dad's forethought" an appropriate placard honoring him will be installed in a conspicuous location (inside) for all to see once the finished work exhibit-ready. Factors mentioned to support the "value" as a donation include: "Cost" of movement; addressing the immediate-need corrosion areas; inspection, disassembly, and replacement of skins, insulation, windows and doors to assure she's weather-tight; and, the most daunting aspect - locating and acquiring a period-correct CCKW chassis, cab, and drive train. My searches for a CCKW thus far readily indicate that this box is just the tip-of-the-iceberg for a complete K53 Project. Without the Box AND a truck to go under it, the dreams of any restoration are fairly moot.

    I have also eluded to the tax benefits that such a donation might render, and I'm willing to form a Project 501(c)3 Non-Profit for this (and other) vehicle restoration projects. I have also, just today, discovered an 1948 Mil-Surplus Willy's Jeep (offered for sale) that just might have been one of those legendary "Jeep-In-A-Crate" vehicles we have all heard of. This may be the spawning of something much larger than originally thought.

    I intend to deliver this written proposal in the coming days.



    Contingency Plan:
    In faith, I have no contingency plan should this proposal not be acceptable. We shall cross that bridge only if it becomes necessary.







    Please stay tuned. This is a developing story.

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    I think you perked their interest in selling it and they are going to be very disappointed when they won't get any money. That is just my take from looking at the pictures. If they didn't need the money your approach would be a viable one. Of course you have personally talked to them so you have a good feel of what may work. I feel your enthusiasm and hope you get it, but I'm afraid you could piss them off and look at you as a scammer. Then your chance of another offer becomes very difficult. Another suggestion since we are talking the art of the deal is to go the donation route but say you really want them to have some money for it and offer them a couple hundred from the bottom of your heart. Good luck it needs saving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2deuce View Post
    I think you perked their interest in selling it and they are going to be very disappointed when they won't get any money. That is just my take from looking at the pictures. If they didn't need the money your approach would be a viable one. Of course you have personally talked to them so you have a good feel of what may work. I feel your enthusiasm and hope you get it, but I'm afraid you could piss them off and look at you as a scammer. Then your chance of another offer becomes very difficult. Another suggestion since we are talking the art of the deal is to go the donation route but say you really want them to have some money for it and offer them a couple hundred from the bottom of your heart. Good luck it needs saving!
    Good thoughts.
    As for their "need" for money - knowing their business that's not even in the equation. The sentimental and preservation factors seem much stronger facets. Cleaning up the "curb-appeal" of the home is also a huge factor.
    One of the comments in our very first meeting kinda showed their hand. I don't think they really want it - especially since it's in their front yard - and were rather surprised. As best I recall, the message was, "You're the first one to ever be interested in it!" (Enthusiastically!) Then they both went to, "How are you going to load it?"... They completely bypassed the concept of "selling", it was much more like a: WOW, somebody wants the dang thing attitude. Our discussions about price were an afterthought that first meeting. And, on Sunday the little conversation we had NEVER broached a "price" topic - again, loading and hauling was the greater concern on their part.
    We shall see!

    Should we go to a purchase plan I'm sure details will be worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFSS-ColdWarrior View Post

    I intend to deliver this written proposal in the coming days.

    UPDATE:

    Well, it's been about 3 weeks since I presented reasonably detailed proposal for gifting the K53 Box for the sake of historic preservation.

    I can report GOOD news in that they have NOT rejected the idea.

    However, they are "discussing" the idea between themselves. They have asked my patience (I take that as a very promising sign) and I feel like I'm "romancing" them into taking the leap. I have talked to them only briefly on two occasions since hand delivering my letter and proposal.

    I look forward to telling the whole story once the transfer is complete.

    Please continue to monitor this thread. I sense that when it happens it's going to be a RAPID RECOVERY!!!




    Oh, and please PRAY ! ! !

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    Prayers offered for a successful completion to the mission. Thanks for the update.
    God bless,
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    Well, boys and girls, it's been a month and a half since the last post to this thread.

    I finally have an update.

    In a nutshell... They have agreed to let go of the K53 Communications Box!!!
    Details of the "deal" will be posted only after the mission is completed... and that may take a few months to do now also (Sigh) since they are going to be acquiring a storage building into which they will transfer all of the box's contents. We've agreed that there is "no rush", so our waiting continues.

    I am confident that the patient approach is about to bear fruit. We'll now await its ripening on the vine before we pick it.

    More to follow as it happens.

    Stand by please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFSS-ColdWarrior View Post
    Well, boys and girls, it's been a month and a half since the last post to this thread.

    I finally have an update.

    In a nutshell... They have agreed to let go of the K53 Communications Box!!!
    Details of the "deal" will be posted only after the mission is completed... and that may take a few months to do now also (Sigh) since they are going to be acquiring a storage building into which they will transfer all of the box's contents. We've agreed that there is "no rush", so our waiting continues.

    I am confident that the patient approach is about to bear fruit. We'll now await its ripening on the vine before we pick it.

    More to follow as it happens.

    Stand by please.
    Good things come to those who wait. God speed


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    Now you can formulate a plan to move it and where to put it. Crane? Expensive. Fork lift? Rut up the yard. Rollback? Bend it up due to no lift points or skid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDT View Post
    Now you can formulate a plan to move it and where to put it. Crane? Expensive. Fork lift? Rut up the yard. Rollback? Bend it up due to no lift points or skid.
    Thanks!
    That's exactly why I'm surely agreeable to a S-L-O-W recovery schedule.
    I'd prefer planning this recovery as though we truly will be moving a piece of "living history". There just aren't many of her species surviving nowadays.
    There aren't really any "battle scars" on her, and I don't want to inflict any injuries either.

    My initial thoughts are to carefully raise the box enough to get a couple of timbers under her from side-to-side. Then using them to raise/lift her to a reasonable height to back a low trailer under her.

    The route from where she sits to where I'll work on her (our backyard) is, according to GOOGLE EARTH, 2.31 miles (1.69 as the crow flies). It's almost all two-lane thoroughfares with only the last 1,000' or so being a residential alley. SO... rigging, flagging, permits (not required) and escorts will be nothing us amateurs can't handle. Half of the route has a 30 mph speed limit and the other half is 40 mph so rolling slowly won't even be disruptive.

    Once home, lowering her off the trailer should simply be a reverse process. I plan to set her up on some cribbing to facilitate inspection and any repair (including rewiring) of her underbelly.

    More to follow, folks.
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