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    $25 lifetime!?
    Az just implemented 32$ a year tax to pay for highway cops pensions.

    I came here to say AZ gave me a 6 digit vin that was on the truck. Only needed state assigned if they couldn't find two of the matching vins. I paid extra for a third party to "Inspect / verify " my vin. Lol
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    Louisiana is one. Law just passed last year. Fully implemented now. HMMWV and all mil trucks have a legal path to registration and title.

    Check thread on here

    https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showth...Motor-Vehicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by tage View Post
    $25 lifetime!?
    Oops. My mistake.

    On July 1, 2017 the price dropped to $5. Yup - $5 for LIFETIME REGISTRATION. Plus, no payload restriction. Best deal in the nation, I think.

    Here's the link: https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/v...tmilitary.aspx

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    Hope this passes.


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    Lol. They will make HMMWV’s legal but ban M151’s.
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    JEB, I am in WA state (Seattle) with a 1988 HMMWV. Registered with no issues last year. Olympia actually sent me an email with what I needed to do when I called them for clarification. Curious, what exactly are you trying to accomplish with the bill? DOL used my SF97 and Bill of Sale.

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    The bill is SB 5417. It is on the agenda for the Senate Transportation Committee public hearing. On the Washington State Legislature homepage (leg.wa.gov), select 1/28/2019 in the "Scheduled hearings and floor sessions" dropdown, then scroll down to Transportation (S). There is a link to the agenda.

    Here is the bill and the Senate Bill Report:

    SB 5417.pdf

    5417 Senate Bill Report.pdf
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    The definition of "Military Surplus Vehicle" in SB 5417 is very similar to the definition in the new KY law, so much so that it appears to have used the KY law as a basis. Regarding "federally mandated requirements set forth in 49 C.F.R. Sec. 571.7", it would be more proper to call this section of the CFR an "exemption" than a "requirement", but I suppose it works. In any event, KY titles and licenses Surplus Military Vehicles with no usage restrictions. Here is the new KY law with relevant sections highlighted and some extraneous information deleted. Note also the KAR (administrative regulation) attached at the end, which gives some details on the application of the law. The full official versions can easily be pulled up online by searching KRS or KAR and the number.

    KY Military Surplus Vehicle Law.pdf
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    BSCo...
    I called the county and Olympia. Both said no way. The woman at the WSP was particularly unhelpful listing the bogus concerns about the type. See my comments above.

    The Dept of Licencing was better but resent I got from responses back.
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    JEB - please let everyone know how the Senate Transportation Committee hearing goes, especially if there are objections that need to be addressed prior to the Committee vote.

    The Wisconsin precedent in accepting MIL-STD-1180B as equivalent to FMVSS is very important. This equivalency is also supported by the correspondence between the NHTSA and AM General regarding the applicability of the notifications and defect remedy provisions of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Act. (The commonly cited exemption in 49CFR Subtitle B Chapter V Subpart A 571.7 is an exemption only for the FMVSS provisions in Subpart B, not a complete exemption from all of the provisions of the Act). The NHTSA correspondence is attached below. It is also currently available on the NHTSA website, easily located by searching a string of text.

    Also, HMMWVs were actually subject to several recalls under the defect remedy provisions of the Act, with the recalls administered by the NHTSA. An example recall (problems with the neutral safety switch) is attached below also.

    Neutral Safety Switch Recall.pdf

    NHTSA letter to AMG 09FEB1988.pdf
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