Deuce brake shoes issues

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

Ok guys I'm having a problem getting the shoes to line up with the the upper brake adjustment cams. They are off by a 1/4" so won't adjust properly.

dmetalmiki · Feb 20, 2019

Make sure the Forward (Located on the backplate) adjusting cam is set correctly.
On the left as you see it in the drum , on the right of the backplate Underneath.

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

I'll take those loose both shoes look crooked.

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

It's not the forward cams it's won't compress sideways where the brass bolts and springs are its catching and can't figure out why??

doghead · Feb 20, 2019

Flip them over?

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

Do the shoes only go one way or are they symmetrical?

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

I am clueless as to why they won't work the brass spacer with spring will not allow it to rest on cam properly no matter which way I flip the shoes.

MudMarine · Feb 20, 2019

If I remember correctly from other drums, they are position specific. Somebody else back me up or correct me on this! It's been a while since I've done brakes and I haven't done them on my Deuce yet

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

Ya I'm putting in upgraded wobble seals and new knuckle boots and having issues with brakes.

gringeltaube · Feb 20, 2019

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B said:
It's not the forward cams it's won't compress sideways where the brass bolts and springs are its catching and can't figure out why??

Which brass bolt?

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B said:
Do the shoes only go one way or are they symmetrical?

Both shoes are identical and both have an upper and lower end. So, not symmetrical.

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B said:
I am clueless as to why they won't work the brass spacer with spring will not allow it to rest on cam properly no matter which way I flip the shoes.

Brass spacer with spring, where...? :???:

Make sure you have the hold down pin correctly assembled:

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 20, 2019

Ok I'll check everything tomorrow G and make sure I didn't use 2 of the same shoes up front have to take both sides apart anyhow I'm such a noob

Aussie Bloke · Feb 21, 2019

G'day everyone,....

I was going to suggest photographing the opposite side and compare to the side that your having trouble with, you should see whats not seating correctly.

Sounds like you haven't reassembled something in the right order because by your picture that shoe is not seated right.

Aussie.

frank8003 · Feb 21, 2019

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B said:
Ok I'll check everything tomorrow G and make sure I didn't use 2 of the same shoes up front have to take both sides apart anyhow I'm such a noob

We all just worker bees on military trucks here.
I had new shoes and had to grind off burrs heavy paint with a dremel get them to work right after I fixed the broken things.
The location of the posts about that are depicted as on the PDF.
................and a small movie of how it is supposed to be.

View attachment brake adjuster repair proof RR tandem IMG_3045.MOV

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 21, 2019

I'll get the driverside drum off today and take video of it.

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 21, 2019

Here's a video guys it's on both sides upfront. I spoke with White Owl Surplus this morning and he tried his best to help but to no avail. Here's the video I hope you guys can help. https://youtu.be/N50AF0fMh9M

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 21, 2019

I just welded a bead on top of adjusters to keep the shoes from slipping off. I'll have everything done between tonight and tomorrow.

LiveFreeOrDieTryn2B · Feb 21, 2019

I just welded a bead on top of adjusters to keep the shoes from slipping off. I'll have everything done between tonight and tomorrow.

doghead · Feb 21, 2019

I hope you did not melt the brass bolt.

doghead · Feb 21, 2019

How about a picture of the repair?

davidb56 · Feb 21, 2019

I don't have a deuce yet, but if the wheel cylinder is centered with the shoes, then the pins are fine, and the cams are the issue, like it could be missing a spacer behind it. If the wheel cylinder is not centered, then the pins are the issue. Assuming the shoes are correct. Is the clearance between the shoe and the backing plate even from top to bottom?

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