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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyfang View Post
    ...............I would volunteer to help revamp the TM forum in a heartbeat. Its always been a pet thing I liked to do, because I always knew that if I did it, it got done right. What we need is a good idea on how to do it right, and then do it. But splitting HMMWV's from the other vehicles only fixes HMMWV's. Lets fix it all.
    Yes sir, this will be done soon, hopefully in the coming weeks; free-time allowing... and I'd appreciate your- and everyone's suggestions and help, of course!

    This is the plan: For now we will not create any new sub-forums. All it needs (in each of the forums) is just one thread per vehicle type/ M-Series, titled accordingly and updated as new manuals are found and added (in the TM-Upload section).

    First post of said thread would be a list of all the TMs, including the -HRs, followed by LOs. 2nd post in that same thread for the MWOs; 3rd one for everything else, related to that family of vehicles.

    Every book; brochure; etc. linked to be downloaded; all TM numbers put- and kept in nice, numerical and/or alphabetical order, with its date-published and a short description of its task, and/or what is covered. Also, by what TM it was superseded, in case of the older books. All easy to find by just scrolling down the page...

    Threads titles in each forum will all start with "TMs for the MXXX-Series, XXXXX (the MV acronym); eventually explained in words, if not so popular.
    All sorted smallest to largest numbers, descending.

    It is clear to me that not every reader can- or want to spend time to- learn the military TM nomenclature; what exactly all the different numbers mean. So we want to make this as user-friendly as possible, even for our newbies!


    Let's get started!

    G.

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    It is clear to me that not every reader can- or want to spend time to- learn the military TM nomenclature; what exactly all the different numbers mean. So we want to make this as user-friendly as possible, even for our newbies!

    A suggestion,

    At least include the correct nomenclature, as well as whatever user friendly names are used.

    Please don't change the Tms TO "BIG GREEN TRUCK WITH 6 LUG NUTS"...
    Let's not "dumb down" the site, I think we all see what that's doing for the rest of the world.

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    Maybe I wasn't clear enough: YES, of course; each line starts with the correct military TM number, then VOL X of X, then Part X of X (if applicable), then the date published, then the description (MAINTENANCE or PARTS, etc.), then- if it was superseded- by which TM.


    I'm all for educating!!

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    I would suggest the you come up with a format, and then a few folks look at it. Make suggestions, and try it out. If several folks find it easy to work, then run with it. Also, before the first message with the "Master List" is posted. Several folks who are truck and TM smart look at it. It never hurts to have more then one pair of eyes look at it.

    Also, should the TM changes be included? I know that I have one TM, that the date published is 1972, and it has 17 changes to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyfang View Post
    Rory, You are a hard man.
    Not really! I need to remember to put something like a smile next to comments like mine to affirm that I am saying it with humour. I felt we were straying from, or missing, the point of the thread at that moment. Certainly, no smacking or insult was intended, and hopefully none taken.


    I absolutely agree with "smarten up" rather than "dumbing down", which is all too prevalent these days. I think anyone serious about their vehicles should at least know what -10, -20 -34P, etc. mean.
    I also think that those of us with experience can gently prod newbies in the right direction to help them get up to speed. Don't do it for them, but help guide them to enlightenment, so to speak.

    My earlier point, which in looking back was not clearly stated, was that while looking at a whole list of TMs, seeking one for my M813, it is easier to quickly spot
    M809 TM 9-2320-260-10 than it is to pick out 260 (which I may not have yet realized means M809) from
    TM 9-2320-260-10


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    Listings won't be set in stone; everything can be changed/updated, anytime.

    All this is already complex enough, so let's keep it as simple and compact as possible. Some TMs will even be listed twice - typically for generator-trailers/trailer-mounted generators.
    Each TM will appear in a paragraph of two lines, at most. Changes for each TM and other such details can be seen after downloading/opening it.


    For now I am transferring all data into my own Excel spreadsheets, to have a better overview and then easier management.

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