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    Question Correct (3) Color Camo Patterns

    Based on RAPCO paint color charts on their website are these the correct (3) color camo patterns for a 1983 U.S.M.C. M923A1 5-Ton truck?

    Any help from the Bullpen would be greatly appreciated, and thank you in advance!








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    If you are going to use the current 3 color with the 383 brown, then you should use the 383 green. The black would stay the same.

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    No CARC paint, it did not exist in 83 use started in 85. Most of the early Corps truck I have seen were just Green or 4 color MERC cammo. I am not a Marine truck expert, but truck pic's from 83, I see only green or MERC



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    For clarification -

    34052 "Marine Green" is the overall colour used prior to camouflage.

    First camouflage applied in the post-34052 era was 4-colour MERDC, mid '70s (Winter Verdant was the most common scheme with the Marines)

    Mid-1980s on, camo (unless it is 686 tan) would be the 383 used by all the services, with the same colours -
    34094 Green
    30051 Brown
    911 Flat Black

    Regardless of how your truck was painted from the factory in 1983 (likely MERDC, that's how our first M939 series trucks arrived), it would have been repainted in 383 later, in the mid to late '80s (and tan after that if it went to the sandbox).

    The patterns are in manual TB 43-0209 in the Technical Manuals section.
    Here's a link https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showth...ge-TB-complete

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    PS - the M923 MWMules posted above is not an active Marine truck, it is someone's personally owned truck painted the way they wanted it. The markings are inaccurate. Holler if you need help with how USMC vehicles are marked.
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    Good snag Rory, I should have caught it by the Radial tires as not being in 83, turns out Pic came from a civi auction. BTW when did the A1's start?
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    M813rc ....Great information, and I appreciate you taking the time on this request.

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    [QUOTE=MWMULES;2209537]BTW when did the A1's start? [QUOTE]

    I don't have the answer to that Dave. By personal observation, I know the Marines were putting 14.00s on M809 and M939 (A0) series trucks mid to late 1980s, before the A1 started being delivered, but I don't know if that inspired the A1, or if it was already on the horizon. David Doyle, or someone with his kind of knowledge, is going to have to answer that.
    We called the 14.00 trucks Big Foot.

    An incidental bit of information - the Marines did not use the M939A2s, by that point they were looking at the MTVR instead.

    I'd love to find one of those USMC license plates they used in Japan.

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    I just came across this thread using the search function.
    Really thought about a looong time of how I want my M923 repainted and came across the following picture.
    Does anyone know what kind of camo this is? Looks something like MERDC but with only 3 colors and they also seem to look different from standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWMULES View Post
    I should have caught it by the Radial tires as not being in 83.

    I thought M939s came with G177 tires from the factory? It seems rare to find an M939 on NDTs, even low mileage original (non-rebuilt) trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubotaman View Post
    I thought M939s came with G177 tires from the factory? It seems rare to find an M939 on NDTs, even low mileage original (non-rebuilt) trucks.
    I believe the 177s were part of the ABS retrofit program
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