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    DSCF2355.jpg Many Thanks to Guyfang, Chris Miggins, and Robo McDuff for their unselfish time spent digging up TMs for a 1977 MAN 4X4 5 Ton truck. The TMs are of course printed in German, and search as we might, we were unable to find any in English. After some head scratching, we did find a company that specializes in translating TMs, Legal Documents, owners manuals and such so that's a start. Now this truck is one of a few that were purchased by the US Military from MAN in the 1970s, and from the door markings it was possibly used for the Patriot Missle Program. Also the truck is unique in that it has a front winch. There is one other truck like this known in the States, and it's on the East Coast. Chris has one of these 4X4 trucks that was used by the German Military in his collection, so his knowledge saved us a lot of time, and guyfang and Robo Mcduff took care of packaging and e-mailing all the TMs. This truck is owned by Alex Gordon at Idaho Motor Pool. Alex purchased the truck 3 years ago from GP at the Depot in Reno, NV.. As you can see the truck isn't in to bad a shape, but Alex didn't know where to start to get the truck running. So I gave him a call today and e-mailed the TMs and the translator info to him. When Alex is finished with this truck it should turn some heads. So, the ball is rolling, and this should make for a good winter project.
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    Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.

    found this

    http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm

    The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1078MAN View Post
    Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.

    found this

    http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm

    The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
    They made this same basic truck in 3 & 4 axles as well. Were going to check TMs for the 3 & 4 axle trucks, as a couple of the guys thought those trucks came with TMs in English, and some of the basic operations were the same for all 3 trucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1078MAN View Post
    Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.

    found this

    http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm1


    The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
    Tracer, thanks for the remark, but I did not do that much (tried but did not work), whatever. If you need a quick translation of something, let me know.

    1078MAN, thanks for the link. I don't think that this type of MAN was ever made in 5 axle, but the 4-axle was well-known on this side of the pond, same as the Tatra Kolos 8x8.

    Interesting is that most European tractors today are 2-axle variations. Cargo trucks often 3-axle. Even during the Cold War, probably transport over the road was more important than through terrain. We needed to get stuff to the front quickly over hundreds of miles if the East Bloc started something.
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    Few people think about it now, but during the cold war, most West German transport trucks were compatible to German Army transport trucks. In the early 70's, if you took notice, there were NATO slave receptacles and openings for a Air observer/Air Defense MG on top of the trucks. A truck driver told me that civ. transport firms got a tax break, if they agreed to purchase compatible trucks, and agree to "sign over" their trucks to the German Army in case of war. Its a thing of the past now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1078MAN View Post
    Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.

    found this

    http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm

    The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
    Excellent idea. I'll start on it tomorrow. Today is a high priority day....The Wife's birthday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracer View Post
    Excellent idea. I'll start on it tomorrow. Today is a high priority day....The Wife's birthday.

    I hear that. I know for a fact the m1001 had English tm, god i kick my self for not grabbing a set.. I remembered last night, trucks were headed to Turkey through the Foreign military sales.

    I swore they were pre patriot
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    I thought this truck looked familiar ---> Auction Wins Week of 9-22-2016

    Glad to see it went to a good home!
    --- Gary

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    Vunderbah, Gentlemen!!


    (Hope I got that right lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terracoma View Post
    I thought this truck looked familiar ---> Auction Wins Week of 9-22-2016

    Glad to see it went to a good home!
    That be it!!
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