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    Interesting Avatar picture you have Wheelspinner. I believe that was the top secret invisible floating 5 ton suspension or you were visiting downtown Detroit.
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    As someone who used to work for state government in OK as an IT person, the various agencies don't work in a vacuum. They attend conferences, sometimes national, sometimes regional. Sometimes the leaders go, sometimes middle management, rarely the folks that really do the work. (They often want to take a laptop if they are giving a presentation.) Very likely that at one of these recent DMV conferences, there was a speaker or discussion on the large number of surplus HMMWVs coming on the market. Even if the discussion wasn't slanted one way or the other, the attendees likely left with the impression that "We need to get in front of this." How this translated to action back in the various states would depend on how the official felt about HMMWVs and MVs.

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    LOL When a Leftist goes to war....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98G View Post
    I don't think so. Here's what I'm seeing -

    For every MD or CO, we have an ID or TX. TX law explicitly provides for unrestricted titles and on road license plates for M998 HMMWVs that were sold with the offroad stamp....

    Granted, the HMMWV sales greatly increased public awareness of the existence of military surplus vehicles. GP did a much better job advertising and expanded awareness.

    But what we're seeing with these laws is just more of the culture war. The Left views the MV hobby as an activity of the right and wants to restrict or prohibit it merely as a means of throwing a rock at people they dont like.

    Consider this - this single most important variable as to whether or not you'll get your MV titled and plated is who you get behind the counter at the DMV office. Get some leftist who doesn't think you should be permitted to have them and the answer is "NO!" even if black letter law clearly allows them. Conversely, consider all the MVs registered and titled in areas where DMV policy supposedly prohibits it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or View Post
    When MV that were sold as off road only showed up on the market people had to find a loop hole and get a on road title. The efforts to get around the intent of the law has caused the law changes, and law changes will continue as long as people try to get around the intent of the law. Just my 2 cents.
    The problem is, their original claim Mil Veh are not up to standards is being deceptive. By their statement you would think mil veh are not safe to drive on public roads or autobahns, but vehicles that are designed and built to serve during WAR are built to a higher standard, just lacking the finery like sound proofing/heat insulation, as well as electronic amenities, when mostly they are only missing a tag light and automatic backup lights. My HMMWV is built tougher than any Prius or Fiat you see on the road, you just have trouble hearing the person next to you talking at a normal tone...

    My theory is its progressives pushing an unofficial, ie, unlawful, environmental policy, as well as removing menacing (in their minds) vehicles off the roads, more progressives forcing their beliefs, their life choices and preferences on everybody else because they feel they have some sort of false moral superiority. And probably acting out of an assumption most Mil Vehicle owners are right-leaning, Conservative or Trump supporters so they feel they are fighting "impending ice age, no, global warming, no climate change, as well as punishing their political opposition. Example the Colorado law was originally supposed to be written to correct the actions taken by local DMV directors but in action, it kicked the policy decision down to the very local DMV directors that were acting beyond/outside the law to begin with, something they are supposed to be correcting this session.

    My former mil vehicle club fought long and hard to get the original law passed by the Colorado State Legislature only to have bureaucrats years later acting beyond the law that was passed by due process.
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