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    I believe jet fuel is about .5 lbs heavier so it should go to the bottom. On the ground with warmup taxi and Runup your looking about 50 gallons used


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    NTSB: Preliminary report B-17
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    according to the report it doesn't sound like a fuel problem unless I am missing something. It did sound like there were no flaps deployed, so maybe they stalled early?

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    If you have an engine out the last thing you want to do is increase drag. You have to have the gear down that also creates drag.


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    While it is our human nature to speculate and hypothesize, we should remain cautious in our grasping for answers. The NTSB investigators have the physical and recorded evidence and are analyzing the forensics of this devastating crash.

    One indicative fact reveled in the preliminary findings was that the pilot(s) reported a "MAG PROBLEM" in the #4 engine.

    REMEMBER: This is a PRELIMINARY REPORT from the NTSB.

    For clarity, I find it poignant that the investigators included in this preliminary report that the PILOT(s) reported the MAG problem... and they stated it EARLY in the report.

    The mag, or magneto, is key to producing spark for the spark plugs. When the mag malfunctions, the engine misfires, backfires, coughs and wheezes. The engine "looses power" - which manifests as reduced horsepower, reduced rpm, and or the engine completely stops generating rotational forces to drive it's attached propeller.

    Since the pilot(s) had first-hand observations of instrumentation, audible inputs and sensory inputs of increasing vibrations through the airframe, their words will be given high value in the evidence gathered.

    Early speculation in this thread may have raised reasonable points of concern, we now seem to know that fuel may have been disqualified as causation.

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    lets let them complete the report. I did the Engine portion of many crashes, they know what they have already, they have the clues, BUT They only get one chance to state it right

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    Thanks frank8003

    I have to add that there are ready clues that have been surmised in the preliminary report. Now they have to figure out why?

    Many hours will be spent finding the reasons.

    Lets be respectful of speculation until the investigation has run its course.

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    WINDSOR LOCKS, CT (WFSB) -- A special ceremony was held on Wednesday [11132019] to honor the airport staff who helped with rescue efforts following the tragic B-17 plane crash last month

    Back on Oct. 2, that B-17 crashed into a de-icing facility at the airport, killing seven people, and injuring six others.
    On Wednesday, state officials had the chance to recognize those who jumped into action to pull victims from the burning wreckage.


    I'm told that you were there within two minutes, I was told you had the fire out within five minutes, and I know that you saved lives, Gov. Ned Lamont said.

    The investigation into what brought down that B-17 is still underway.
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