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    Hello I am wanting to know if there are others out there whom would be Interested in starting a military Radio/ commo group within steel soldiers.

    I know there are many that do have some mil.spec radios , vics, ect,,and others whom may like to outfit their vehicles The vintage commo.

    I think it would be pretty cool to do some convoys or if were out running in the woods , desert ect,,. And communicate . Sure there everyone’s cell phone but that takes out the fun in it. Plus who knows maybe the Chinese might decide to take away your satellite one day,,, oops no more cell phone boys ! Well sure would be nice if there some more experienced troopers out there that can help take the lead on this. Thanks - Hillbilly

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    I always thought that that was what this forum was???

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    Maybe he is suggesting a subgroup of SS who actually have coax and a radio hooked to their antenna?

    I think an on-the-air net would be fun but the way the bands have been.....forget it, unless low power on 75 meters is your idea of fun!
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    Don't you just love bugging the Hams on 6 meters though with wideband FM?

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    Back in the Spring I actually talked to an Indiana ham on 51 MHz using a Tesla RF-10 with about one Watt. That was fun, for about 1 minute then poof he was gone!
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    Well what I hoped To get more military vehicle owners to acquire and get into the communication part of the vehicles in order to preserve that element.

    if there is a need for it then the radios & other Como gear won’t just disappear and history lost.
    I’m going to get a M-524 with amp, ect,,. But I wanted to get a M- 246 but it seems like that is getting extremely hard to have an operational one and someone to even work on them.

    I just thought to use them allot more at the rally’s, and swap & trade shows and convoys , ect,,. Would be awesome.

    what about if the Chinese or some disaster takes out satellites and everyone’s cell phones are useless? It’s going to be guys like us that could help out our local communities working with emergency services if needed. These are just some of my thoughts & concerns.

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    Yes a sub group or call the the RTO’s or something of Steel soldiers. Yes I mean using M524, M246, PCR-77, ect,,.with the long whip antenna hook ups to the Vehicles. Use them when ever a few of us can get together.

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    That's an RT-524 or RT-246 not M-524/M-246. Both the 246 and 524 are 35 watt radios and generally aren't operated with an external amplifier. I have both available but shipping cross country for a 62 pound radio is expensive.

    The biggest problem with these radios isn't the equipment itself but the operators. Radios like the PRC-25/77 or 126/8 are all low power and with limited range generally don't bother anybody except the sticklers who (correctly) will tell you that you need to be a licensed amateur to operate them and even then there's only a very small segment of the radios capability that can be considered legal to use. The FM tactical radios generally operate from 30.00 - 75.00 Mhz and the only segment of the available to use is the 6 meter amateur band from 50.00 - 54.00 Mhz and even then the hams don't particularly care for wide bandwidth transmitters operating in their narrow bandwidth world. Now when you move up to radios like the 246 and 524 with their higher power output you really can mess things up.

    Two things any operator needs to know are that transmitting without an FCC license is illegal and operating outside the 6 meter band is also wrong. People who aren't "radio guys" generally don't understand that and can create problems for the MV community by using their radios incorrectly ie, outside acceptable frequencies.
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    All good information, thank you. I have a half a dozen or so “brick” radios. I picked them up at a yard sale dirt cheap. In order to legally use them, I had to get a GMRS(?) license. It was not expensive, it was good for 5 years and I didn’t need to take a test to get it. What it did was make it legal to use my radios on my property legally. I also have a PRC something or another radio. I have a backpack model and a vehicle based radio. I’ll go the same route for a license ‘cause I don’t want the consequences of doing something wrong.

    The idea of a radio group has merit, in my opinion. It would allow for various issues to be brought up, discussed and used to further our MV radio green disease.

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    That's an RT-524 or RT-246 not M-524/M-246. Both the 246 and 524 are 35 watt radios and generally aren't operated with an external amplifier. I have both available but shipping cross country for a 62 pound radio is expensive.

    The biggest problem with these radios isn't the equipment itself but the operators. Radios like the PRC-25/77 or 126/8 are all low power and with limited range generally don't bother anybody except the sticklers who (correctly) will tell you that you need to be a licensed amateur to operate them and even then there's only a very small segment of the radios capability that can be considered legal to use. The FM tactical radios generally operate from 30.00 - 75.00 Mhz and the only segment of the available to use is the 6 meter amateur band from 50.00 - 54.00 Mhz and even then the hams don't particularly care for wide bandwidth transmitters operating in their narrow bandwidth world. Now when you move up to radios like the 246 and 524 with their higher power output you really can mess things up.

    Two things any operator needs to know are that transmitting without an FCC license is illegal and operating outside the 6 meter band is also wrong. People who aren't "radio guys" generally don't understand that and can create problems for the MV community by using their radios incorrectly ie, outside acceptable frequencies.
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    This information is so incredibly helpful. Thank you very much,,,.

    I’m moving forward with this & hope it takes off. Papakb you seem to have a really good lead on this and a wealth of knowledge. It may be a couple or a few months before I can get my first radio but I’ll go from there.

    plus I’m putting in a VIC system in my M35A2. I have a lot to learn. I use to know more as a company RTO but many decades the information in the head gets misplaced , ha,ha.. I’ll be trying to re school myself enough to operate help a little then look for the guys with much more experience that can help them better. Thank you all once again on this subject, I think it could be a lot of fun combined with our vehicles. - SSGHILLBILLY

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