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No Start and No Crank

howardc

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Hi guys,

I have searched and found a few threads with a similar issue, but I'm still stumped.

Drove the M1009 to work this morning, as an owl decided to kamikaze into my daily driver windshield, but that's a different story. Started fine at 5 am, drove to work, finished my shift and went to start it at 630 am. It slowly cranked long enough for the batteries to die. I tried to jump it using a battery pack but didn't work. Replaced the batteries, bought the relay to complete the doghead starter mod while I was bored at work this morning.

New batteries, and all I get is the new relay click sound when I turn the key. I got a piece of jumper wire and crossed the two wires on the relay, and get the usual relay click and a thumping noise from the starter. Is it possible I fried the starter and it needs to be replaced?

Thanks for any help you can provide; I'm out of ideas beyond replacing the starter.
 

DeadParrot

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Thump the end of the starter opposite the gear end. That's where the brushes live and if they are shot, sometimes you can get a start or two extra with a decent whack. Think rubber mallet whack.

If it is brushes, they are a few dollars to replace.
 

Barrman

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Yes, under voltage on the starter will do tremendous damage to it. I did almost the same thing years ago. Only a slave from a running 24 volt truck would make it turn fast enough to start the engine. But the starter would be too hot to touch for more that a few seconds afterward.
 

howardc

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Thump the end of the starter opposite the gear end. That's where the brushes live and if they are shot, sometimes you can get a start or two extra with a decent whack. Think rubber mallet whack.

If it is brushes, they are a few dollars to replace.
Tried that. It’s worked on other vehicles I’ve worked on but no luck this time. How hard is the starter to rebuild? Might just get a rebuild kit.


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DeadParrot

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Never done a complete rebuild. Replacing brushes on a Chevy 350 direct drive starter is fairly simple and the brushes were $4 from O'Rielly's a few years ago. Guessing the direct drive 24v version would be similar. No clue on the gear reduction versions.
 

Barrman

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Both direct drive and redux starters are very easy to rebuild. The HMMWV -20 TM is a great resource with step by step instructions on how to do the redux.
 
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