Another way to Bob a Deuce!

ICAT said:

just wondering, has anyone ever put a utility box on a bobbed deuce? if so, i would like some see some pics

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Here's one.

looks good. is that box off a military cucv or a civy truck?

ICAT said:

looks good. is that box off a military cucv or a civy truck?

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I don't know box looks to close to tire for me but it could be the pic.

100dollarman said:

Twins!!!

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http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attach...her-way-bob-deuce-2011-03-29_15-59-11_762.jpg

Is the one on the left still for sale? It looks like my dream truck.

Keep your notes on it because I'll be wanting a bobbed deuce as soon as I close on my new homestead.

Dave

BUMP. mine will be similar to 100dollarman's with a few mods. Less welding, more bolt and brace. Design still rattling around in my head. want to keep track of his.

isn't the suspention on a M105 trailer and the m149 water trailer the same?

lots of good info in this post.

11echo,

Nice utility bed addition!!!!

bobing first deuce and i have a few questions and yes i used the search but no help. just wondering, how much of the frame do you remove if using the deuce shortened deuce bed? i looked on the xm381.com but he is using a 105 bed. if it is the same great and i don't want to reinvent the wheel.

thanks

Bobbed Duece Measurements

ICAT,

I cut 36" off my drop side bed to keep the vertical posts balanced as factory. I sectioned the bed (and the drop sides), cutting out one vertical post so I did not have to mess with the front or back of the bed. You can see the evidence of the cuts/welds on the picture of the bed in the dump position.....the bed was cut in the front and the sides were cut in the rear. I then cut 34" off the chassis. When I removed the cross member I reversed it and reinstalled it forward of the original position and bolted it back to back with the one right behind the air tanks for more torsional strength.....you can see this in the picture behind the hoist. My bed, being a dump, overhangs the back of the truck about 8-9 inches....you may want to leave a few more inches on the chassis if you are not doing a dump. If I can help with more pictures or answers let me know.

Later

Charlie

thanks for the info. my is a dropside also. your pic are really helpful. any more pics would be great.
and thanks again

ballencd said:

ICAT,

I cut 36" off my drop side bed to keep the vertical posts balanced as factory. I sectioned the bed (and the drop sides), cutting out one vertical post so I did not have to mess with the front or back of the bed. You can see the evidence of the cuts/welds on the picture of the bed in the dump position.....the bed was cut in the front and the sides were cut in the rear. I then cut 34" off the chassis. When I removed the cross member I reversed it and reinstalled it forward of the original position and bolted it back to back with the one right behind the air tanks for more torsional strength.....you can see this in the picture behind the hoist. My bed, being a dump, overhangs the back of the truck about 8-9 inches....you may want to leave a few more inches on the chassis if you are not doing a dump. If I can help with more pictures or answers let me know.

Later

Charlie

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Did you move the rear axle back or did you leave it in its original position? Do you have any side-profile pics? I'm in the process of bobbing mine (I'd love to do a dump bed but the $$$ is tight right now) and I'm torn between leaving the axle in place and cutting the bed by 42" or moving the axle back 6" and cutting everything down by 36". Cutting by 36" and leaving the axle in place puts it forward of the centeline of the box and it looks weird when I photoshop it.

goldwing2000, I moved the axle back between 11-12" and would have moved it back a few more if I had ordered the hoist kit prior to shortening the chassis. The hoist kit recommended no more then 6" between the rear spring hanger and the hinge pin and mine worked out about 9-10". As it is the dump works fine but I think would "feel" a little better (more stable) if the rear axle were a bit further back. I also choose the 12VDC pump hooked to one battery and it discharges too quickly if I do not leave the truck running all the time while I am working with the tractor. I get about 2-3 dumps before it starts slowing down. I combat that with a charger in the drive on 2 amps which seems to work fine. I only charge the one battery that I am using for the hoist. My plan is the future is to swap to a PTO drive when I can find the parts and the money. It takes me about 40 seconds to dump and the pump runs at about 3 gal/min. The PTO version runs about 8-9 gals/min and would be much quicker. Not a big issue but it would save some time over the long haul.

Hope this helps

Charlie

That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Regarding your hydro setup, I don't know how much you're looking to spend on the PTO drive but have you thought about adding a 12v alternator? You can get a complete setup from Wolverine for like $330 (plus another battery) or put one together yourself for about half that. You won't have the increased flow but you also won't have to buy as many new parts.

Very much interested in more pictures of the dump bed process. Do you have a listing of the parts that you had to order (hoist)
Great truck and I think that your worries on axle placement are unfounded. I believe that you will be just fine. Most of the manufacturers have over engineered their safety concerns and this is why they recommend the placement of the hoist and the distance from the axle. I think that you will more than likely cube out prior to over weight in your normal day to day uses for the dump! Fantastic truck! Would really like to see more!
Dave08

This GMC I bought a few years a go in case I had to use the bell housing and transfer case in a m211 .I did not use any parts and don't need it now . I thought I would post the pictures of the bob job .

Dave08 said:

Very much interested in more pictures of the dump bed process. Do you have a listing of the parts that you had to order (hoist)
Great truck and I think that your worries on axle placement are unfounded. I believe that you will be just fine. Most of the manufacturers have over engineered their safety concerns and this is why they recommend the placement of the hoist and the distance from the axle. I think that you will more than likely cube out prior to over weight in your normal day to day uses for the dump! Fantastic truck! Would really like to see more!
Dave08

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Clintdigger97 sells a dump bed kit for $1500, complete.

If you start to get spring wrap beef it up i like it i may try it on my 2nd duece and see how it goes!

Im buying a 91 M931 A2 This is my first Military truck.It is a 5 ton with a fifth wheel.Im look to bob it.Would love some advice on how to do it and what parts i will need.I will be building a bed so i can haul my rock crawler around on it.

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