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    HEY GUYS,
    GETTING READY TO PAINT MY UH-1E..
    I GOT PICTURES OF 'AS DELIVERED' OLIVE DRAB PAINT FOR 1965.
    BUT CANT FIGURE OUT THE REPLACEMENT PAINT FOR IT.
    EXAMPLE.:
    Im getting ready to paint it in a few weeks. That bring up a question. I cant find the correct paint. I talked to Bruce at Bell, he told me the correct paint number but I cant find a glossy Olive Drab paint like in the photo. This was as dilivered paint color. The closest thing i think is USMC # 24052 (semi-gloss)
    As delivered, your 1965 a/c was painted with a MIL-L-6805 lacquer, glossy olive drab color #1405 (Wade down towards the bottom of the attached). Some info on mil use of OD paint can be found on the link below. You'll see a reference to 1405 that evolved into a number of other configurations and appears to end up as 34087 (color example shown in top chart of the link). The article talks of Army vehicles but, at the end of the day, paint is paint whatever it's applied to. Bruce..
    Do they make a Gloss olive drab, what brand holds up best?..
    should i buy a spray can, paint a piece of alumium and have it scaned at a car paint shop and have them make up a batch of PPC paint single stage? It would hold up better?..I would only like to do this once..
    Thanks a bunch for your info and Look for me at a bunch of the shows..
    ps, the gun mounts are almost finished!..
    Kevin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by decodeme2 View Post
    HEY GUYS,
    GETTING READY TO PAINT MY UH-1E..
    I GOT PICTURES OF 'AS DELIVERED' OLIVE DRAB PAINT FOR 1965.
    BUT CANT FIGURE OUT THE REPLACEMENT PAINT FOR IT.
    EXAMPLE.:
    Im getting ready to paint it in a few weeks. That bring up a question. I cant find the correct paint. I talked to Bruce at Bell, he told me the correct paint number but I cant find a glossy Olive Drab paint like in the photo. This was as dilivered paint color. The closest thing i think is USMC # 24052 (semi-gloss)
    As delivered, your 1965 a/c was painted with a MIL-L-6805 lacquer, glossy olive drab color #1405 (Wade down towards the bottom of the attached). Some info on mil use of OD paint can be found on the link below. You'll see a reference to 1405 that evolved into a number of other configurations and appears to end up as 34087 (color example shown in top chart of the link). The article talks of Army vehicles but, at the end of the day, paint is paint whatever it's applied to. Bruce..
    Do they make a Gloss olive drab, what brand holds up best?..
    should i buy a spray can, paint a piece of alumium and have it scaned at a car paint shop and have them make up a batch of PPC paint single stage? It would hold up better?..I would only like to do this once..
    Thanks a bunch for your info and Look for me at a bunch of the shows..
    ps, the gun mounts are almost finished!..

    Kevin..
    Kevin,

    One of my friends also happens to be my PPG paint rep handling military paints and sealants.

    I attempted getting pricing for the NCP coatings CARC that PPG sells, but the minimums required make it so that I could not even come close to the prices others here have quoted for Sherwin Williams paint.

    Getting back to your paint color question, Fed-Std-595 which covers paint colors to military specifications does not contain a color #1405. All Fed-Std colors will be 5 digit colors, 10,000 being gloss, 20,000 series being semi-gloss, and the 30,000 colors being flat or lusterless.

    If you send me a PM, I can call Bill and get you a price on PPG 8200 polyurethane as 14087 color which will be glossy, or I can put you in contact with him directly.
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    The ARmy had some of those that were a gloss olive crab fo the "big wheels".
    Another brand is Dupont in the Imron line and that is what we use for most aircraft flying offshore to the rigs.
    Many choices to choose from.
    Gloss paint will hold longer than flatter versions but it depends on what you want.
    I assume that this is a flying machine and not a static display that will never fly again. You will want to weight it agin since it is almost impossible to calculate the weight of applied paint for weight & balance figures.

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    Hey Guys,
    Thanks for the info, PM sent for more info with the Paint rep. Also this bird is Static on a trailer, so the weight of the paint wont matter..I will be painting this in my hanger, so the more forgiving the better..The Helo wont fit in paint shop spray booths, and I cant afford to have it painted at a A/C paint shop, so...I will give it a try..Should be no different than a car, just bigger!. Thanks again!.
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    Marine green is NOT OD.......24052 cn be found in color fan FS595A..........
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    Does this fly? if so make sure to do a weight and ballance. all fluids full (serviced), zero fuel, depuddle the fuel tank. and then weigh the aircraft after paint...

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    This is the US Army H model I painted...its in the semi gloss OD paint correct for late Vietnam..like 67-75...

    Its way different than Marine Green....
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    Looks like what I flew at Ft Rucker in 1980. Fun times flying with your arm hanging out the window.

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    I opened this thread thinking "man, they really needed to talk with Cevon about his Huey, but, unfortunately, he's gone." Then, I realized that this WAS Cevon's thread and someone responded to it. He was a good guy and is missed. RIP, Cevon. For those who did not know him well, he would tell people his name was Kevin because it was easier for most to remember, but he told me his name was really Cevon. He even signed his posts as "Kevin," but I felt the need to address him correctly here! Gone too soon. I believe its been two years this past spring.
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    My local Sherwin Williams rep was very helpful when I was looking for paint to use on my truck.
    She got together with the support people who recommended SHER-CRYL HPA (High Performance Acrylic)
    Can be sprayed, rolled, or brushed and looks pretty good to me.
    Went with 24084 paint code from the FS595B which is Semi-Gloss. They made it up with Ultradeep Base.
    I paid about $60.00 per gallon on a contractor account.
    https://www.paintdocs.com/docs/webPD...prodno=B66R300

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