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    Apparently China is now counterfeiting ARB air locking differentials.

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewt7f-h8Wn4&feature=player_embedded[/media]

    Kind of makes you wonder what else is being counterfeited that we don't know about.

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    It figures. Most stuff that comes from China is shifty and poorly designed. As long as people are willing to place orders, the manufacturers don't care. Chinese factories are notorious for changing specs, allowing equipment to lose calibration, using cheaper materials, etc.

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    I'm sure more stuff than you think is counterfeit. Just a matter of time until people realize this I hope...but not betting.
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    I know jewelry, clothing, watches, etc are hot spots for counterfeiting. It would be interesting to see a complete list. Heckler & Kock went on a big legal crusade against airsoft and paintball gun makers recently. Most of those come from China and vicinity. Glock sued HFC because they make an exact airsoft replica of the G18c.

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    Careful here guys, my company makes a lot of money testing and rejecting China products.
    But they do not have a corner on the cheap junk market. As stated, the consumer is to cheap to buy good stuff, that is where we will put a stop to this mess.

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    As I understood the video, they are selling the inferior products as actual ARB's. I don't think it's a matter of knowingly buying the cheapest out of all the competition. It's a matter of willful counterfeiting using an established company's name. If I pay a grand for a Rockwell ARB, I'd like to know my money actually bought an ARB & not a knock-off packaged in a counterfeit box.

    So how's a consumer to know unless you are already an expert with the product?

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    The hot rod parts market has been hit HARD.
    SO many of the parts (intake manifolds, ignitions, cylinder heads, etc.) are blatant clones of USA-engineered (and most times patented? Edelbrock, for example) items.

    I can't say I'm surprised abouto the ARB's.
    Standard fare: tried and proven design cloned and marketed as "the same".
    You gotta love the obvious lack of quality of the clone's internals. It's laughable.
    What a shame.

    But you're all right.......
    Folks are bent to save money these days and buying cheap Chinese c**p is "it".
    Even if they have to buy four of the junk item to last as long as the original quality item, it's the initial purchase price everyone is obsessed with.
    I do not wish to start an argument but I bet many folks here would agree that the initials WM are who started this downward spiral to total China dependence in this country.

    It's a vicious circle.

    It's become HARD to find non-Chinese items these days.
    Sorry to rant but this is a real hot button for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MO MV man View Post
    I do not wish to start an argument but I bet many folks here would agree that the initials WM are who started this downward spiral to total China dependence in this country.

    There for a microsecond I thought you meant Wreckerman (WM) then I remembered everyone slamming Walmart.

    Cheap knockoff parts are bad enough but you have to think back in the last two years the pet food that killed so many pets and crippled others and the kids toys with lead in them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbradley1 View Post
    There for a microsecond I thought you meant Wreckerman (WM) then I remembered everyone slamming Walmart.

    Cheap knockoff parts are bad enough but you have to think back in the last two years the pet food that killed so many pets and crippled others and the kids toys with lead in them as well.

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    I enjoy Wreckerman too much to give him a hard time.

    So many things.....as you said, the pet food, kids toys with lead....the McDonalds Shrek glasses with lead in the paint, the toothpastes that had something horrible in them (wasn't it like anti-freeze?) and untold numbers of other incidents we, as consumers, NEVER hear about.
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    no, you can blame capatalism for WM. the free people and desire for less expensive goods are what has lead to WM's success.

    however, the willful product infiltration is solely on the shoulders of China. last i checked, WM sells alternative brands, not knock-offs relabled as name-brands. those are two completely seperate discussions and only one of them has a place in this thread.

    i, too, would be devistated if i payed at or near full-price for an ARB and found out it was an imposter. mainly because there would be nothing you could do at that point - everyone would claim ignorance and you'd be out money and have a broken locker.
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