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    I recently won a M105A2 trailer, and was wondering what paperwork comes with it if I don't request an SF-97 or a title? A bill of sale? GL's rules on titling say if I request an SF-97/title they will charge me accordingly. This makes it sound optional, and I was wondering if it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDominionIron2 View Post
    I recently won a M105A2 trailer, and was wondering what paperwork comes with it if I don't request an SF-97 or a title? A bill of sale? GL's rules on titling say if I request an SF-97/title they will charge me accordingly. This makes it sound optional, and I was wondering if it really is.
    Most states need it to prove you didn't steal the vehicle, although in some states a bill of sale is fine. The SF-97 has more info other than your word.

    Best to call the state.

    Turns out ND needs the SF-97 so I'll be applying for mine after I retrieve the goods.
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    The SF-97 is optional from GL. The only paper work you'll have proving the trailer is yours is your paid-in-full invoice.
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    after paying for the sf 97, tax and title it adds a good chuck of change to the $250 I paid for the trailer .
    Every request for Sf 97 I have had I was given Arizona titles instead of the sf97 .
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    Virginia won't accept a SF-97, so a title is going to be required.

    It's crappy you purchase a vehicle and then have to pay for the paperwork to make it legal.

    I can't believe that GL can sell any motor vehicle without providing paperwork that is legally accepted that you are now the rightfull owner.
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    I've got a question submitted to the Virginia DMV and will post their response here when I get it. I agree that it's crappy to have to pay for paperwork, I believe that that should be covered by GL's 10% buyer's premium. My question to the DMV is is a bill of sale enough paperwork to register a trailer that has never been titled before and is being bought as government surplus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDominionIron2 View Post
    I've got a question submitted to the Virginia DMV and will post their response here when I get it. I agree that it's crappy to have to pay for paperwork, I believe that that should be covered by GL's 10% buyer's premium. My question to the DMV is is a bill of sale enough paperwork to register a trailer that has never been titled before and is being bought as government surplus.
    I asked, via phone, the NDDOT the same question and they asked me why and I explained GL.

    They said "don't they give out sf-97's anymore"

    Darnit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDominionIron2 View Post
    I've got a question submitted to the Virginia DMV and will post their response here when I get it. I agree that it's crappy to have to pay for paperwork, I believe that that should be covered by GL's 10% buyer's premium. My question to the DMV is is a bill of sale enough paperwork to register a trailer that has never been titled before and is being bought as government surplus.
    I've got a Andrew Grant that says you are going to have to pay for a title.
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    In WA state, our local licensing agents will not touch a military trailer without a transfer of title or an SF97. They said a bill of sale alone will not cut it.

    oops, just noticed you had VA not WA.
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    In California you'll need an SF97 if you're going to register the trailer "as-is" because the trailer has never been registered before.

    Another route you might take (and the one I'll likely do for my new-to-me m101a1) is to use parts from the trailer to create a "special construction" home built trailer. For this to work you'll have to show receipts for major components such as the axles, wheels, tires, brake lights, etc. So if you're swapping in a new axle you will probably have enough in receipts to handle this.

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