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    Here is the response from the Virginia DMV.

    Thank you for visiting www.dmvnow.com.

    Is the bill of sale issued by the goverment on letterhead with the original Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MOC)? Do you have any other paperwork other then a bill of sale and what type of government agency is selling the trailer?

    Since the bill of sale will come from GL and not the government, it looks like I'm going to have to shell out the money for a title for this trailer. My next question is since the model year is "unknown," how do I go about finding the year of manufacture of this trailer? Is it possible to track down the serial number or contact the manufacturer? Does Carnac do trailers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDominionIron2 View Post
    Here is the response from the Virginia DMV.

    Thank you for visiting www.dmvnow.com.

    Is the bill of sale issued by the goverment on letterhead with the original Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MOC)? Do you have any other paperwork other then a bill of sale and what type of government agency is selling the trailer?

    Since the bill of sale will come from GL and not the government, it looks like I'm going to have to shell out the money for a title for this trailer. My next question is since the model year is "unknown," how do I go about finding the year of manufacture of this trailer? Is it possible to track down the serial number or contact the manufacturer? Does Carnac do trailers?
    I don't remember what model of trailer you purchased, but if the sale didn't give a date of manufacture, pick a date that you want.

    Since Virginia hits you for personal property tax, I'd probably use a 1980's date since they would only hit you for a couple of $'s per year. Also purchase a permanent tag since they are easy to get. Lastly, lots of folks in VA just throw a "Farm TAG" on trailers and I'm sure they don't get them titled.

    I'm using 2009 for the model year since they might be worth a few more $'s if I were to decide to sell them.
    1997 Pribbs M105a3 (X2)
    1997 Pribbs M101a3
    1997 Kasel M116a3
    2005 Kasel M101a3 (X2)
    1990 D&S M1061a2
    1989 MEP-003a
    1983 MEP-003a
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    Nonotagain, would you happen to know if Maryland accepts a SF-97 to register a trailer. I have a 105 that I would like to tag later this year.
    Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselBob View Post
    Nonotagain, would you happen to know if Maryland accepts a SF-97 to register a trailer. I have a 105 that I would like to tag later this year.
    Yes Bob, Maryland accepts the SF-97. There was a list that showed what states accepted the SF-97 verses the ones that require a title, but I can't seem to find it now. I'll keep digging.

    I wanted to title a couple of my trailers in Virginia so that I would only have to pay one time. I'm planning on moving later this year. I asked GL if I could pay for a title instead of the SF-97 and was informed that since I still reside in MD, I could only get the SF-97.
    1997 Pribbs M105a3 (X2)
    1997 Pribbs M101a3
    1997 Kasel M116a3
    2005 Kasel M101a3 (X2)
    1990 D&S M1061a2
    1989 MEP-003a
    1983 MEP-003a
    1973 Kaiser M818

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    Thanks you Sir for the information.
    Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world

    Bob
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    1971 M35A2
    1991 M105A2
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    MEP-003 10K Diesel Genny

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    As I understood it you could, in theory, request an SF97 directly from the government for free.

    GL does it as a courtesy (for a fee of course).

    I could be wrong.

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    I just got my m101a2 registered with the DMV this week. I provided the GL paid invoice and walked out with tags 20 minutes later

    Alabama does not issue title for utility trailers or anything over 30 years old. Bill of sale is all you need.

    Good luck.

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    I picked up a M101 today in Richmond and used a $5.00 permit to get it home. I would be interested in hearing the VDOT response to your question.
    Seems like alot of hassle for a trailer. I will say the trailer is immaculate with
    3 brand new tires, new canvas and paint (and some other goodies in the bed) So i'm not complaining to much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa@ezdn.net View Post
    I picked up a M101 today in Richmond and used a $5.00 permit to get it home.
    I really wish the Peoples Republic of Maryland had those temp permits.
    Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world

    Bob
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    1971 M35A2
    1991 M105A2
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    MEP-003 10K Diesel Genny

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselBob View Post
    I really wish the Peoples Republic of Maryland had those temp permits.
    You got that right.

    I used to have access to my brothers transport tag. He allowed his lease to expire, so they would not renew his tag.

    A couple of weeks back, I did a favor for a guy that owns a shop that has a transport tag and asked if I could borrow it. He confirmed that I could use his tag, but it's not good for interstate transport.

    I will be using it next week to pick up my M101a3's from Ft Meade.
    1997 Pribbs M105a3 (X2)
    1997 Pribbs M101a3
    1997 Kasel M116a3
    2005 Kasel M101a3 (X2)
    1990 D&S M1061a2
    1989 MEP-003a
    1983 MEP-003a
    1973 Kaiser M818

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