Built an anti wrap setup on my bobbed Deuce

[samsimpson]

I was getting pretty bad wheel hop in the sand so I decided to build an anti wrap link setup.

The pic is kind of bad, I need to take another one. Haven't tested it out yet (in sand) but so far just driving it around seems a little more crisp on the throttle, but that could all be in my head

 

[ApopkaFL]

Thats just your common set of ladders bars.....

 

[samsimpson]

Umm, no, it is a single bar, with two mounting points on the axle and a shackle mount to the frame. Ladder bars are fixed on all 3 points and are for race cars.

 

[drgreg]

Is it on one side only? Like you say it's hard to see in the picture.
The lift block are some of the problem.

 

[samsimpson]

Yeah just one side and yep, the lift block sure doesn't help. Neither do the m105 springs and the 16.00R20 XZLs So far these seems to have fixed it, but won't know for sure till I get it in the thick stuff.

Some more pics at http://fmvowners.com/index.php/topic,39.0.html, I will try to take another pic and post it here.

 

[mudguppy]

here's my answer:

 

[samsimpson]

I thought of doing something similar to that since I didn't think there was very much articulation in the springs, and since it isn't like I am going to go rock crawling. Do you get any bind in that setup?

The rear actually articulates alot more then I ever thought it would, could be since it uses trailer springs? Fear of binding up was what kept me from doing something like that, but I like it, looks super clean!

 

[samsimpson]

Also since you have a good pic of them, what are those handle looking things for? Are they tie downs?

 

[mudguppy]

no bind. zero axle wrap.

the thicker 'handles' are on the M109 vans, which is what my truck was originally. they are supposedly intended as tie-downs, although the thinner 'handles' on the M35 have me wondering if they are of any real use - isn't much meat to those...

 

[samsimpson]

I have them on my M35, they do make good grab handles when getting up from under the truck Thanks for the info

 

[jamesfrom180]

Samsimpson Please go ahead and take a good pick of your set up. I like your set up. My application will be slightly lighter but that is a whole different story.

 

[KsM715]

Those handles are tie down points. Not for tying the truck down but for when you need to tie stuff to the truck.

 

[Billy Bobbed]

Heres my M105 springs,I dont have spring wrap.Dont need blocks or ladder bars.It will haul a tank

 

[jamesfrom180]

I got home and looked over some notes I was just wondering why you used the hime joints on the axle. Seems alot of people use simple bushings and a hime on the front end.

 

[mdmorganwife]

I have them on my M35, they do make good grab handles when getting up from under the truck Thanks for the info

They make really good hood handles too!

 

[gimpyrobb]

the thicker 'handles' are on the M109 vans, which is what my truck was originally. they are supposedly intended as tie-downs, although the thinner 'handles' on the M35 have me wondering if they are of any real use - isn't much meat to those...

Thats not correct. The different "handles" are from different build contracts. My M109 has the old "small" style and my deuce has the "large" style.

 

[samsimpson]

I got home and looked over some notes I was just wondering why you used the hime joints on the axle. Seems alot of people use simple bushings and a hime on the front end.

Bushings are mainly for the dampening (noises) and are cheaper, but in my case it was just cheaper to use them since I bought the tractor links. They were fairly cheap and aside from the trailer hangers and shackle, everything else I used was just crap I had around the garage. There is no benefit using heims on the axle side since it is mounted solid in two places, but it doesn't hurt either.

Since this is just a wrap setup, not a location setup, and the fact that I am not going to hear or feel anything from those joints anywhay, it was just cheaper to do it how I did it. Not to mention quicker, I didn't have to order anything

Now if I was going to be build them proper, I would of used DOM everywhere, real 1" Heim or large johnny joint, bushings with DOM housings on the axle side and the shackle mount and greasable bolts everywhere. But that setup would of cost a whole lot more.

 

[jamesfrom180]

In time and material. Looks like for your application its a pretty good set up. Now lets see how it works in the sand!

 

[samsimpson]

Here is a little bit better pic. I also added another to that other link. Almost took it to the beach tonight, will probably have to wait till this weekend.

 

[Coal Cracker]

Not to hijack the thread, but what are you guys using for blocks??? tube, cast iron, aluminum, tapered or non tapered,, no one is telling their secrets.