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Remembering what we haven't yet discovered

It's a little late but thought you folks would like to see it anyway. My Mother's Remembrance Day tribute to her Dad who came back home after WW1 and Uncle Ralph Crickmay Ewing who did not. Mom's family housed American Pilots in WW11 so she included a post card. Pretty cool effort.

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Our Canadian Civil Defence Museum artist pulled this together.

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We've been granted some pretty crazy access to Fall Out shelter structures so the buried Westeel soldiers will soon be documented. Here's one going in to Edmonton's Meadowlark area.

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One primary search for Alberta is to uncover all 110 posts from this Edmonton news paper article.

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Just part of our ancient Nuclear Detonation and Fallout Reporting System. I think you guys have seen the maps.
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Historic pics in Meadowlark Edmonton.

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A huge thanks to Steel Soldier Terrh who thought of me when he spotted this Radiacmeter. Very similar to the 1960 Army manual spec. Any of you guys ever use one of these?

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Home Shelters

Through the small closet door under the stairs.

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...down more stairs, through the tunnel,

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.....see 56 years of history pass in front of you. Real cool that the shelf is still in there. We'll get to re-create the shot with modern supplies and a fresh couple.

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Today's pictures are a result of finding an old newspaper article about a shelter, dropping a museum card in a mail box and getting a call from a cool battery guy that let me in his house. All we've got left to do is take him for a ride in a Cold War 6x6.

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Well Jesss...You tease me by showing me the Newspaper clipping and walking around the outside of the house and then not taking me to see the insides...!!!
That was my first residential adventure so it was good to do it alone. The house is for rent so we can go anytime until it's rented. Even then he said, "If I needed to get excited like that again, he'd let me in."


I thought about staying in school until I became a professor. When I realized we only live about 90 years if we're lucky, I didn't think I'd have enough time. Instead, I found professors that already knew what I was talking about and I'm letting them work with me. We've all been busy and if you haven't had time to check out the map before, good. It's so much more valuable now that we have the FRP's in my province of Alberta marked.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_466OV3UB9r3PFSBMrj7O7pXQqs7HEYD&ll=48.908706632339644,-97.13891999999998&z=5

WHAAAT? Not the FRP's you say. Abandoned in 1968, Canada built fallout shelters in a 15 x 45 mile grid across the entire country for fallout sniffing. FRP's, Fallout Reporting Posts in the NDFRS Nuclear Detonation and Fallout Reporting System were hard wired so staff could tap to each other and report to headquarters. In the early period, under pressure in a growing blooming mushroom age, the volunteers for these stations would leave their families and head to their various sniffing posts. They would lock down and wait, only to emerge after a period of time when they could put on NBC clothing, head outside, take a reading, head back in, decontaminate, then send the results in. These weren't elaborate in the beginning, likely two man, provisions for days or weeks, away from family, hidden in the bowels of a concrete and steel holder.

Our neighbours on both sides were noisy and had big rockets they'd fire off so we did a lot of work up here to get ready for the after-party. I was in school, this school in 1977. Living near the Boreal Forest we could have built our schools out of wood. Thanks to noisy neighbours I got to duck under the desk in this fortification.

With one inch rebar this almost qualifies as a Steel Soldier, but I won't push it. The roof design, the beams, columns, tributary spans.......hover over a soon to be discovered footing. Welcome to Jr. High School Kids. The urgency to beat the bus to the wrecking yard continues.

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Civil Defence Finds and fronds

I thought the big story of the day would be the second story, I was in a fallout shelter built in the 50's......then the phone rang.

I passed my Canadian Civil Defence Museum card to the operator on his first day of work and told him what I thought I knew. On the fifth day of demolition he called me. "It's taking a lot longer than we thought to get this building down". He had a chance to peek into the areas below grade and now he's super interested in the building's real story.

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Today's phone call floored me, or roofed me, or reinforced steeled me with a wonder of the people who first used the concrete hallways. "I'll leave it on the back of my truck", he says. This 1943 Canadian Women's Army Corps cap was found in an unusual location. My second favorite person on the planet today thought of me so we're real fortunate that we took the time to open comms before the demolition.

In new condition, maybe a prop from a drama class or left behind by an attendee of a Civil Defence class held in abundance, for decades, across Canada.

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It makes this seem a little less exciting but having a tour of this old Fall out Reporting Post, captured in a 2005 picture by our museum's Executive Director is still a little nuts. The picture is part of Andrew Burtch's book about Canada's little fallout shelters.

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The plot, floor, walls and plan thicken

Remember the days when we'd get together on Saturdays and practice rescuing our buddies from the second floor using a ladder and ropes?

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If you do than you're experienced and probably remember your evac maps too. Some of you even remember your Warden. Right in the middle of the letter 'A' is Wellington School. http://www.infrastructure.alberta.ca/Content/docType354/production/Wellington-School.pdf

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Built in 1957 at 4450m2 and in expanded by another 1767.4m2 in 1961, the precast T beam, concrete and rebar construction, interlaced with fire-proof roof joists may have beat the current planners. Originally, the site was destined for a complete clean-up and a new building constructed in its place. Latest news today is they're going push the concrete into 'the hole', then cover it with dirt and leave it. The next few days should be real interesting.

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I grabbed some close-up pictures for our engineers on board. Check out that roof material. Looks like a ceramic tube with internal cross supports then rebar and concrete on top. Sassy.

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We can't forget to add the map. It's been updated again with the fine folks of B.C. in the mix.https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_466OV3UB9r3PFSBMrj7O7pXQqs7HEYD&ll=48.908706632339644,-97.13891999999998&z=5
 
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Civil Defence education and evaluation program CDEEP

Well folks, it's happened! The student becomes the educator. Plowboy's been invited to do a little education seminar at the University of Alberta faculty building. Wish me luck, I still have a lot to learn!

"What story do you want to tell"

We will be focusing on the people and equipment part of the story. A quick path backwards from my Goose the deuce preservation to its usage in civil defence. How my hunt for M135 history led me to preside over the current flock at the Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association. How Fred's discovery of Edmonton's Civil Defence bunker in 2009 led to the purchase of a sticks and mortar cold war radar dome in 2018. We'll discuss Andrew Burtch's map and how Canada went underground 'everywhere we are'. The ladies will be on the forefront with the early NBC Nuclear Biological Chemical warfare nursing programs to the sweet elderly lady that baked cookies each morning in the Edmonton bunker.

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The items we've found as part of the Edmonton story will be on display as well as some of our first merchandising ideas.

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Since we're talking schools, my high school is a pile of steel and concrete. They found some big rebar so the psi potential of this structure just went up. The only thing left to explore is the mechanical room. The massive voids under the school are being revealed and pose more questions.

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Civil Defence historical photos

You better come visit soon because we're going so fast it feels like we're flying.

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Have you folks checked out the pictures on the facebook site where you don't need to sign into facebook when you look at pictures. I think annoying advertising pops up once in a while but if you want to see hundreds of NEW historical and hysterical pictures of joint American/ Canadian operations including drinking then go to the link. Many thanks to the folks that are helping us dig up the history.

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https://www.facebook.com/CanadianCivilDefenceMuseumAndArchives/

That's right, hundreds of old photos that tell some great stories. Like these ones including an old photo of all three levels of military coming together in one unit.

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I guess we can talk about it folks, the data is rolling in and the map has been updated. Our programs for Civil Defence after August of 1949 were big and this map is just the start. The link below lets you peak at our first attempt at creating hardened structures for sniffing Fall out. With changes and advancing technology after 58' and more after 1968, Civil Defence programs were abandoned and new philosophies implemented. Click on a dot in the link to see a small description of what we were thinking back in the 50's.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_466OV3UB9r3PFSBMrj7O7pXQqs7HEYD&ll=61.14408827622364,-93.78414495294021&z=4

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If you want to know more then you need to find a way past this guy.

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Civil Defence Defense Supplies

Well Doctors and Nurses, it's still there. After being batched in the 50's and 60's, medical supplies were distributed, decentralized and spread out to hardened structures surrounding target areas throughout the entire Country. The documentation and rumors were abound and today we found some remnants.

Seems funny to say outloud as I type this but we saved a bunch of old cardboard boxes full of outdated medical supplies. Fortunately we aren't alone in the discovery so the owner, local museum and hospital staff will help make good decisions with any hazardous items. The majority is saline however we'll don the proper Personal Protection Equipment before we move it.

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Take a look at the spelling of Civil Defence on the boxes. We still use the British spelling north of the 49th and some folks ride that Canadian spelling train pretty hard. I'm not sure what happened here other than, I'm not saying, I'm just saying it's possible our manufacturers couldn't supply the quantity we thought we required so we bought supplies from our neighbour. .....and yes that's the correct way to spell neighbour.

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Somehow we have a few boxes with the American version of Civil Defense written on them and that part of the story will most definitely be told at our museum. Thanks for the saline boys!


Let's follow up with some random structural pics of columns, beams and tributary spans, stairways to no where and the Royal Boiler.

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Just another brick in the wall

Soooooo, what do you think is behind the different sized red bricks?
The mysteries behind the doors marked 'High Voltage Do Not Enter', the walls with no doors and the crates that continue to surface get the spidey senses tingling, but I don't have the answers.

Fella's, ladies and service animals, we have a steel crate at the dome that's still sealed, heavy and maybe someone knows what's in it. It's on the priority list but lower down then security.

The dome team spent a few days working on the lower floors and sent me the pictures of how the second floor looks with the lights on. There's a ton of clean up to do and we hope there's a big prize in the crate.

Any guesses?



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I'm on a mission sometime this spring to move this 2 ton Brockway from skunkworks to the dome. At that time the team can assemble and get a peak at the crate contents.

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Meanwhile, we keep digging for answers and the story!

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That mystery crate seems to be sitting directly under the chain hoist trolley that delivered it to that position so long ago.

Using that same chain hoist to levitate the crate's cover to reveal its hidden treasure is like Divine Providence. USE IT!!!

Inquiring minds want to know what's inside that BIG EASTER EGG ! ! !
 

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I'm intrigued by that lovely trailer! Any data plates on it?
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The trailer is still behind barbwire so I will follow up with details within a few weeks we're hoping. Here's a link with what looks like a brother trailer, the 2 ton Rubery Owen but I don't see the data plate in the same spot on our trailer so a follow-up is required. http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/29894-rubery-owen-brockhouse-2-ton/

The latest surprise is from the bowels of a building that was torn down in 1970, its basement contents hauled over to the new building where Civil Defence CD items from the 50's and 60's are still sitting to this day. Most of the items were disposed of in 1996, some more items were thrown out two years ago but there was this one room that wasn't used much so to our good fortune, some of those items were saved.

The only connection we had to verify that the P.A. system was part of the CD inventory was one man. It's just another reason we sense an urgency to hustle and find the folks that were part of the CD/EMO program.

Here's a peak at the 1966 canteen, the made in Japan Fanon PA system still in the sealed bag, 4 packages of signage sitting on two stretchers from the Early Deuce era.

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Cold War Bus

Love the signage, I'd be putting the out of bounds sign on my shop. :)
Ya know, If we were smarter, we'd pick up on that idea immediately, re-create the signs and make them available to the public. There is no other info on the signs yet and we're looking for that providence document that gives us the ability to tag them with Civil Defence Museum logos so they mean something. Likely, manufactured by the thousands and distributed before 1961 into thousands of buildings across Canada. These signs were moved out of a basement in 1970ish so we have that date as the last known era. There's a groovy selection so a little something for everyone to choose a favorite.

The crystal ball can be hazy with an unknown economy and everyone paddling in different directions but I can only gush with admiration at our crazy team trying to share the story.

Here's another great article about one leg of our adventure. I told the boys owning an antique toy on wheels is hard work and they just keep working hard.
http://mystarcollectorcar.com/may-2019-a-retired-1967-tdh-3501-gmc-bus-is-now-a-cold-war-museum-on-wheels/

"""""MAY 2019: A RETIRED 1967 TDH-3501 GMC BUS IS NOW A COLD WAR MUSEUM ON WHEELS"""""

"""""The main players were the United States and the Soviet Union because these two countries developed enough nuclear weapons to wipe out the planet numerous times over. There were other nuclear-armed nations, but the US and USSR were the big dogs on the radioactive porch."""""
 

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