Civil Defense Vehicles and Items

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Civil Defence Vehicles

We know how you boys like your ladies! This is one of the few "vehicle" pics we've found so far and it just happens to come with a group of girls that would probably be real handy at those Steel Soldiers Rallies.

Nothing but respect for the girls of this rural community who trained as nurses en-mass, to provide services to target cities.

Finding vehicle pics has been tough but we're on to a lead and hope to add a Pontiac to the list of Civil Defence Vehicles.


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Now the fun part starts, hunting for a build truck.


Wasn't sure how this pic would work but we're looking for information on Pumper No. 1. We have not found a similar truck on the net so if someone comes across some pics or info, we'd appreciate seeing it. Could be a British Rig?


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Found some great links to the American Civil Defense story loaded with vehicle pics so I'll add them for entertainment.

Time Stamp significant dates,
http://legeros.com/essays/cd/

The link to vehicles with CCKW, Deuces, 5-tons a Panel and a few other tasty trucks
http://legeros.com/essays/cd/apparatus.shtml

A Franklin County Civil Defense DUKW and a Panel. Also linked within this link is an interesting 36 page read.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/blogs/a-look-back/2011/11/civil-defense-vehicles.html
 

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This tunnel cart is still used in one of our 1940's to 60's, publicly accessible tunnel systems.

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The Civil Defence "Buildings" project we're working on includes hunting through news-paper clippings for related addresses, then asking for access to those areas. In most cases, people are surprised that there is any significant history to their building and are happy to publicly share pictures.

These tunnels date back to the 1900's and display the convenience of large utility corridors.


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Civil Defence Vehicles

By George I think we've got it. Canada Health and Welfare, Dominion Health back in the beginning, administered the start of the Civil Defence Program. We found one budget where they spent 23 million on vehicles back in the 50's.

We're still hunting for acquisition docs but have identified a 1954 International as a potential Icon Vehicle.

This one was valued around 28 thousand so hopefully we can find one that needs attention.

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Interesting that you show a picture of an International. In the day, the RCASC (Royal Canadian Army Service Corps) militia units had these as their transport truck, prior to being issued the M211 and M135. I've been looking for a few pictures that I ran across of these trucks equipped with stake bodies and tarps but filed them too well. The pictures I am referencing were taken in Victoria at the Bay Street Armoury, which hosted 155 Coy RCASC. If I have any success, I'll post them. If you any contacts with the militia Service Battalion in Edmonton, they may have something since they would have had the same trucks. Another option is to see if the Ashton Armoury Museum in Victoria, BC have any of these photos. They are in the home of the successor unit of 155 Coy RCASC, now 11 Service Company, a reduced version of what was once 11(Victoria) Service Battalion.

I am going to assume that these trucks may have been transferred to the Civil Defence authorities later, or have been part of the same procurement. Once you know the model, you may find one sitting behind a barn somewhere in Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba where rust won't be as bad as out here on the coast.
 

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Here's a historical shot of a Civil Defence member getting ready for a 50's cruise. Towing a Government used, civilian car to an MV rally for on-site transport may have gained some credibility.

I bet someone recognizes that front end!


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Most of the pics get added to the facebook site and you don't need to be a member to look at them. Don't forget to click 'like' if you're getting some value. It's all we ask for.

https://www.facebook.com/CanadianCivilDefenceMuseumAsscociation
 

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Interesting that you show a picture of an International. In the day, the RCASC (Royal Canadian Army Service Corps) militia units had these as their transport truck, prior to being issued the M211 and M135. I've been looking for a few pictures that I ran across of these trucks equipped with stake bodies and tarps but filed them too well. The pictures I am referencing were taken in Victoria at the Bay Street Armoury, which hosted 155 Coy RCASC. If I have any success, I'll post them. If you any contacts with the militia Service Battalion in Edmonton, they may have something since they would have had the same trucks. Another option is to see if the Ashton Armoury Museum in Victoria, BC have any of these photos. They are in the home of the successor unit of 155 Coy RCASC, now 11 Service Company, a reduced version of what was once 11(Victoria) Service Battalion.

I am going to assume that these trucks may have been transferred to the Civil Defence authorities later, or have been part of the same procurement. Once you know the model, you may find one sitting behind a barn somewhere in Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba where rust won't be as bad as out here on the coast.

Well there's a lead.....the Royal Canadian Army Service Corps goes back to Nov. 1, 1901. http://rcasc.org/rcasc_hist_breif.html

The Ashton Armoury is funky like the originator of the CCDMA and have a Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/Friends-of-Ashton-Armoury-Museum-Victoria-BC-Canada-219752694888399/

You'll find the Early Deuce, Jeeps, Cmp's and a few other toys on their site. Greatly appreciate the info!
 

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Continental Defence

Here's a wacky Continental Defence link that goes back to 42' when Edmonton rented some real nice office space to the United States Army Corps of Engineers. This is a high end Civil Defence building.

I helped maintain this property for 7 years starting in the late 80's so I took Goose there for a pic...first day I had it running.

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Doing the Civil Defence research, I stumbled on the early connection to the mansion and it's tunnels being used by USACE.

http://history.alberta.ca/governmenthouse/history/thumbnailsketch.aspx

Here's a blurb


""""""For $2,000 a month, the building was leased to Northwest Airlines, an American company contracted by the US government to operate a military cargo route to Alaska. In 1942, the United States Army Corps of Engineers arrived in Edmonton, charged with the urgent need to begin building the Alaska Highway. At the time, this massive undertaking was seen to be a crucial defence requirement for North America. The Corps needed a headquarters for offices. As well, Edmonton was headquarters of the Alaskan Wing, (US) Air Transport Command, a stopover used by US pilots ferrying planes to Alaska where they would be turned over to Russian pilots. Government House was accepted as the temporary solution for office and dormitory needs of both military functions until a more suitable building could be constructed.""""""""""""

The 'more suitable' building may have been a long ago demolished structure on our City's west end known only as, American Laundry.
 

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Commer Fire-Truck

It's a Commer. Can't make this stuff up. I may end up with a Dinky toy instead of a real truck but this rig is a looker. The roofline curls over the top to two wide storage racks on either side. There's only one connection to a military version and it's a toy with a white star on the side so we're still hunting some history.

Trying to understand the difference between the 955 and 555 Commer so looking into the forums and 'Images' online. Most of the links lead to toy advertising however here's a shortened link to a ton of great "Commer Fire Truck" Images.

http://tinyurl.com/z66sahw



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The Crew Cab version would be handy getting the family to rallies.
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Commer vans were around at one time in Victoria, at one time the haven of British cars and some trucks. I'm not sure if there is a connection to Bedford, but they also built similar vans. The Brits out there may have more info on that for you. Neat pictures. I think I had the Dinky Toy in the day...
 

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That's a rough looking can of food and who doesn't like a good MRE story, let's run with it.

This guy, Steve 1989 can be found eating, demonstrating and smoking some crazy rat paks from all parts of the globe.

Here's his channel link.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2I6Et1JkidnnbWgJFiMeHA

He's linked with this site which is full of past and current MRE info.
http://www.mreinfo.com/

This is a link to the tins donated to us...Not To Be Opened Except By Order From An Officer
https://www.facebook.com/CanadianCi...2.1073741832.549485788428794/996586477052054/
 

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Bunker Access

After a flurry of letter writing, a few lefts and an upper-cut, we have been offered a 3 month pass to one of Canada's first, nuclear protected, Civil Defence shelters, as previously discussed. The legalities, waivers and confined space issues are being addressed and we intend to conduct small tours to interested parties. Details will be made available here when we get them. https://www.facebook.com/CanadianCivilDefenceMuseumAsscociation

Meanwhile, we dug the prints out of archives for Canada's 2nd, known, discussed and disclosed, nuclear protected "provincial bunker". Anyone know anything about the Nuclear Detonation and Fall-out Reporting System? NDFRS?

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We have the honour to hold another uniform.


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The pamphlets and stories we're getting from alliances and researchers has been over the top......so I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and go cruisin' on down the road. She's got a CAR # from 1953. http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/vehicles/markings/vehiclemarkings.htm

""""""Marking schemes continued to develop after the Korean War; War Department numbers gave way to CAR (Canadian Army Registration) numbers, in the format YY-XXXXX. [FONT=Arial, sans-serif] YY was the last two digits of the year in which the vehicle entered Canadian service, followed by a dash and then a 5-digit number unique to the vehicle. For example: 54-82501. Unlike the wartime Census Numbers, the 5 digits were not related to the number of vehicles acquired in any given year."""""""[/FONT]
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Civil Defence Wetaskiwin

We just crawled out of another nuclear shelter in the "Reception" town of Wetaskiwin, about 44km from Edmonton's S.E. boundry.

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It is currently being used as an archive, which is open to the public, so we asked to see the basement! They have moved these "Sealed" boxes around for 51 years and the current staff would not have been told of their significance. These were Mobile Feeding Units distributed en-mass to prepare for casualties from target areas. We've heard the rumors, found the documentation saying these were in hundreds of buildings......now we know.


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After the historical find in the basement and checking out the existing jail cell, the archive had prepared their inventory of Civil Defence literature for us. We now have documentation showing the M135 in use as a civilian rescue vehicle.

Additional information came out of a large stack of folders and files which our organization, along with the Wetaskiwin Archive, will photo-document and make available for public web viewing.

Looks like I'll be shopping for a crane and a trailer next!

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Mobile Feeding Unit

Tried loading a few content pics but I'll need to do some sizing before you kids can see in the the rest of the boxes.

Here's a start.

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This will be one of the first, if not the first, military/civilian joint rescue services handbook.

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Managed to get a few more pics loaded. This is page 1 of the Mobile Feeding Unit instruction manual and it was supplied by the Department of Health and Welfare. The Water buffalo comes from the Defence manual in the previous post, compliments of the Canadian Civil Defence Museum and the Wetaskiwin Archive.

Here's a link to yet another shelter, where we find the identical kit to the one in Wetaskiwin...http://www.nelsonstar.com/news/219305301.html




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Civil Defence Truck

After peeling through old news papers, we finally found a picture of my new project. The only other picture on record, so far, is from the back. This pic comes from the Wetaskiwin Archive and post-dates the American "Alert" convoy by one year. http://www.coldwarla.com/the-alert-america-convoy.html



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Canadian-Civil-Defence vehicles.jpg ..........I forgot about this one so we've got two now.
 
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I rotated the 1st picture but it wouldn't load so head tilt required. This is the add for the brand new international in the previous post.

The aircraft, all had roles in the early programs of nuke sniffing, sub spotting and bear chasing in the early 50's.



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Civil Defence Fort Saskatchewan

It's a stretch saying these are Civil Defence items but this is the 'other' info I come across digging through old news clippings.

The newspaper clippings provide leads to towns that still hold some rare items. One of those leads is supposed to net us 10 sirens this week so more pics coming.

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