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Jbulach

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You should be able to get your cylinder hydroed on your own. But the problem you may be having is, I don't think test facilities can legally release your cylinder back to you if it fails hydro. However, I think its very rare for them to fail, unless they have been abused.
Maybe you can ask them before you commit, if it fails, if they can just cut a hole in the bottom and return it for a display piece.

Search "welding cylinder hydrostatic testing los angeles"

Get it tested, restamped, refilled and keep using a great conversation piece. Hopefully good for another 60 yrs!
 

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Jbulach,
Thanks for the post, my tank is still in cert, the problem is the welding shops don't want to be bothered nor care about the historical value of my cylinder. They said I would not get it back, I even added that I would even paint it pink with polka dots so no one would want it..all they could say they would only exchange it. Even if I had it tested...:(
 

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Well that stinks. Sorry, I misunderstood the issue.

I had a similar problem around here with the big guys no longer filling tanks that I bought from them. Fortunately my tanks weren't anything special and I found someone that would swap the tanks out for me.

Good luck in finding yours a proper home!
 

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Let's hope that truck goes to a good preservation home. We're also hoping the bus purist club doesn't see this old 67' before she gets slid into the arms of the Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association. Activity has begun to 'acquire' this yeller feller and turn it into a local, rolling archive display. It's a 5 year plan which is fairly aggressive considering the cash required to turn this into an insurable, mobile museum and the shack required to store it in.

The museum founder planted the seed a few years back as a cross country venture but we're scaling it back to a realistic local display bus to share the home-front story.

It's been indoors since 2003 and was recently kicked out of the plans of a fellow museum. Digging has already begun for new barn but talk is cheap....here are the pics.

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It's confirmed, I'm a bus project driver. After some early digging we found out that some of you base brats may have taken a ride on an "Old Look GM" because they were used by the Military. Other interesting Original Purchasers were Lockheed Missiles & Space Co. (Sunnyvale CA) and the U.S. Navy,

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We dropped off the paperwork today and crawled around the new toy. This bus was delivered in 66' and someone did all the hard work with this awesome website telling us who bought and a pile of other info. The Ohio Museum of Transportation http://www.omot.org/frame2.htm
She's bus # 792 that came in a group purchase to Calgary as bus #317 http://www.omot.org/roster/GMOldLookList/tdh3501.html

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I was hoping we'd see the 6-71 Detroit engine but shes got a Toro flow.......and we thought we'd seen everything. http://6066gmcguy.com/toroflow.html

Not sure how the ROFLMAO smileys got in there.

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The director ordered up the TM's and already has another collector checking into the front cover that appears to be patched with JB weld.

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This project is different because the Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association is hustling Grants for a complete restoration and sustainability project. If the Executive Director has his way it'll be up and running next year for Canada's 150th birthday, touring Edmonton with a load of Civil Defence archives inside and a mini theater.

More pics of what we're up against.

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The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round....you know the rest, sing along.

The wheels on the big G749 rescue truck go round and round too and today, he delivered the bus.

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The last time I posted on the Toroflow propelled bus the rolling laughing smiley was auto placed in between the words Toro and Flow, so we're going to try it again and see if Toroflow is a rolling Moderator joke. Let's see what happens when we type Toroflow into a thread. Toroflow.

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We did put some power to the old girl, not to start it but to check electrical systems. All the lights lit up including the step light and all the interior overhead lights. Lots of cheers came out of the CCDMA team.

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We rolled the engine over by hand and were very happy with the results. We've got some battery box clean up to do, purchase the correct battery for it and if the weather holds, we may get a chance to fire this beast before winter.

We also dipped the anti-freeze and parked it on the shady side of the G749/Fire Vehicle farm to get it ready for her new shed.

The boys were sure that they saw this bus in Green paint with a big star on the side so if any of you kids remember these buses hauling troops around a military base, we'd really dig some confirmation. I can only find a few images of the 1966 GMC bus in military colors. It doesn't 'fit in' to the G749 farm theme as much as it 'stands out' even in the fall colors so we're contemplating finished color themes.

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Nice score! Seems like an oxy-moron putting a "no smoking" sign in a Fire Dept bus! Aluminum body I presume; sure looks complete and dent free. I suspect base busses would have been more like the conventional "Blubird" or "Thomas" types for short hauls. During my time, "MCI" or Motor Coach Industries supplied highway coaches with the preffered diesel engine and standard transmission for highway use. MCI also built the M100Cdn trailer in the 50's! This looks to be more designed for city use with two entry/exit doors. My $.02
 
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I just saw this thread, and have not yet through all of it, but it looks awesome!! Civil Defense is awesome. If anyone knows where I can get an Air Raid siren near Utah, I would be very interested so I can use it for events and such.
Thanks and I will read through all this.
 

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We need a moderator to explain how the laughing smiley shows up when we type the Toroflow name into a thread. Makes me giggle. It even added it to the hyperlink. http://6066gmcguy.com/toroflow.html
http://6066gmcguy.com/

Found the bus on this site as a rental.....http://www.melodyranchstudio.com/images/army/bus.jpg
http://www.melodyranchstudio.com/var/trucks.htm

Let's have a few more of you kids type in toroflow. We'll add a hyphen to the toro-flow,.....or maybe a cummins torocumminsflow.....a duramax would be cool, toroduramaxflow. Toroflow. Sounds like a lawnmower with a runny nose. Toroflow.
 

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I'm going to need to check if this is the only smiley that comes up when the correct order of 0's and 1's hit the keyboard....What I know is we Git-er-done.

No one is Rolling on the Floor Laughing today.......although after all the reading I've been doing on the toroflow, the smiley seems very appropriate.

Here's a short clip of a fine sounding Toro-Flow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxaFegXdKZ0&feature=youtu.be
 

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1966 GM coach DH478

The wipers on the bus go swish swish swish. After draining the fuel tank of some nasty looking, yet very flammable + 13 year old diesel, adding conditioner and about 5 gallons of new diesel,

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Pulling the funky looking pre-cleaner and almost new, even funkier looking air-filter,

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Pulling the very odd yet seemingly functional patch off of the front engine cover,

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Checking the oil, and draining a little fuel out of the dual filters, cleaning out the battery box, adding a big ol' battery,

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By passing a very corroded relay, Lighting a fire to fight the cold, wet air,

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Checking out the temperature and going through the manuals,

The DH478 came to life after about 3 tries, 1/2 throttle and a micro-squirt of ether. As soon as we started to roll the starter over, the smoke was pouring out of the tail-pipe so there was a good chance she'd pop, and she did. Still lots to do but at least we can get about 30 Steel Soldier boys drunk and drive you'all home now!

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It was an odd weather day and towards the end we had this heavy fog rolling in. You couldn't see how moist the air was until I snapped a few photos with the flash on.

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Before we started working on the bus, I asked the brilliant man that founded the Civil Defence Museum, if he was sure how we would shut the engine off. He read the manual and was convinced that flipping the ignition switch would kill the engine.....nope. So we stared at our options, talked about undoing the fuel line out of the filters, enjoyed the sound of the 478 and snapped a few more photos.

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After flipping through the book and finding the shut-off lever on the side of the pump, Al Toro, the 66 GM coach took the initiative and shut down on her own.

Sure glad it did because at night on the G749 farm, you never know what's going to wander out of the woods.

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I can't drive 55

It's Remembrance Day, 100 years since the passing of my great uncle at Vimy and the 100 year anniversary of the battle of Somme http://www.warmuseum.ca/firstworldwar/history/battles-and-fighting/land-battles/the-somme/ where """""allied losses were estimated at 623,907, of whom more than 24,700 were Canadians and Newfoundlanders."""""
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/battle-of-the-somme/

It's always a tough day with the thoughts of my friends who gave all in Afghanistan so we keep real busy doing things that I think they'd want me to be doing. The freedom that we share on this continent exists because of all those that have served so to my American Buddies, Thank You for doing all that you do!!!

Since the weather has been schpectacular we're prepping for a big bus riding party tomorrow and you're all invited. I just did that so no one can say I never invited you.

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We worked on cleaning and tweaking a few things but still can't get power from the start button in the cab all the way back to the brand new shiny relay. For the time being we hooked up a momentary switch directly off the starter selenoid. It could be as simple as replacing the momentary switch in the cab and as Superdave says, "It's just wiring", so we're going to keep trouble-shooting after tomorrow.

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We knew we'd eventually need to upgrade the air intake filter assembly and this sassy 4" neck, K&M filter jumped in early to help us out.

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After getting everything back together, without priming again or using ether, the Toro-flow toroflow fired with one tap of the starter. I don't even think it made a full revolution before it fired at 55°F so we're really looking forward to getting it hot and seeing if the blue exhaust goes away. Painting the pulleys when the bus is running is dangerous so we let one of the Trailer Park Boys do it.

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Tomorrow's the day so jump in your Leer jet and join us at the G749 farm for a hot dog!

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It's the CLM Industries Canadian made air-raid siren. Here, Crank up the volume but wait until the family is asleep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4tLX61U-rQ

The tear-down and beginning re-build process, with some groovy background music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34rHYJ2MoM

Here's another one with some classical music......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyiB6qrdvMQ

....and another 'early' video that will scare the dog but shot before the CCDMA knew how to take videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx0CEoy3bBQ
 
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