M1008 cracked head off starter

[irishvin]

Ok so I bought this truck back October other than a lil gp issue everything is just fine till 2days ago truck wouldn't start it cranked but wouldn't start so left it on a trickle charger bc I drained the batterys (stupid me) then came oyt this morning it would start again went so went to work came back now trun the key no clicking nothing etarts so look under dam start cracked the head off so took iut wounded what would cause such a problem ... thanks vinny

 

[porkysplace]

Did it have the brace on the rear of the starter?

 

[Warthog]

Your run on sentence is hard to follow. I had to read it mulitple times.

Either loose starter bolts, missing support bracket or a combination of both.

You may be able to find a replacement nose cone. That is assuming nothing else is wrong with the starter.

 

[irishvin]

No it wasn't connected at all

 

[Warthog]

With the high compression of the 6.2L diesel, if the support bracket isn't install you can break many things. You are lucky it was only the starter.

The missing bracket can break starters, starter bolts and even the block itself. I have one sitting in my garage where the previous owner didn't have the bracket and broke the block. Very expensive mistake.

 

[irishvin]

I think the solenoid is bad haven't bench tested yet. and sorry for the run on sentences kinda hard with phone

 

[Warthog]

Happens to others:

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?102910-Guess-I-know-why-it-won-t-start
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?26881-Cracked-CUCV-starter

 

[irishvin]

makes it feel a bit better haha

 

[goldneagle]

Get a new gear reduction starter from AMAZON.com. Got mine for $139 with free shipping and 2 year warranty. You will need a different bracket to support it. Should be less than $20 on Ebay. Info is available on my thread. goldneagle M1008 recovery and restoration thread.

 

[Warthog]

He already has a gear reduction. Rebuilding it is tougher than a direct drive. Just needs to find a new nose cone. NAPA maybe?

He does need the correct bracket

 

[goldneagle]

He already has a gear reduction. Rebuilding it is tougher than a direct drive. Just needs to find a new nose cone. NAPA maybe?

He does need the correct bracket

"I think the solenoid is bad haven't bench tested yet. and sorry for the run on sentences kinda hard with phone " quote from him. I did not look closely at the starter. I just looked at it again and I see ware on the gear that contacts the flywheel. My opinion is that replacing it with a new one is the best choice. $139 isn't going to kill him. He can always get the old one rebuilt and keep it as a backup or sell it.

 

[irishvin]

139 sounds alit better than rebuild local shop asking 220 for them to rebuild. thanks for the help guys. ill check the thread out ill keep you guys posted

 

[Baer]

When I bought my CUCV I was told it would need a starter someday. So I bought a new starter on E-bay but put off that someday but now I think that day is here, slow cranking and draining the batteries in two attempts to start at 10 seconds each. Any last minute words of wisdom before I crawl under that thing?

 

[Warthog]

Jack up the truck as the axle/wheel stays on the ground. It allows move room for the starter to clear the front drive shaft.

Use the correct factory starter bolts and make sure you have the correct support bracket.


Here is a picture of the broken block because of a missing bracket.If you look closely the starter bolts are broken off.

 

[irishvin]

I would suggest checking very cucv anybody gets ... so far both my trucks didn't have brackets and both had stater problems. M1009 better m1008 but yeah definitely check and double check the bracket. one thing bruned into the back of my head now lol

 

[irishvin]

Beach tested the starter works fine but im gonna follow golden eagles advice and get a new one and rebuild old one for a back up thanks

 

[goldneagle]

Jack up the truck as the axle/wheel stays on the ground. It allows move room for the starter to clear the front drive shaft.

Use the correct factory starter bolts and make sure you have the correct support bracket.


Here is a picture of the broken block because of a missing bracket.If you look closely the starter bolts are broken off.

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There is no way to know if those were the proper starter bolts. Maybe they were replacement bolts that did not meet spec's.

 

[irishvin]

So I read this form

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?86666-Direct-vs-Gear-Reduction-Starter/page3

And came to a conclusion dd vs gr is about 50/50 just want to know your opinion

 

[irishvin]

well i order a new 28mt 24v GR starter, new bracket and new starter bolts thanks guys for the help spent only $126 on eveything not bad from what i was searching for everything
thanks again guys for the help

 

[Warthog]

Great news. Glad we could help.

There is no way to know if those were the proper starter bolts. Maybe they were replacement bolts that did not meet spec's.

Actually the broken bolts where in the floorboard. They where factory bolts with the knurled shaft.