Dead Pilot's M38a1

[Dead pilot]

I ended up with a new rescue this month. Got my hands on pretty clean 52 M38a1. Looks like someone started to restore but stopped. All the major parts, very little rust and the engine is free. Won't know if she starts up till I can clean out the fuel system. Going to go through all the brakes and axles and service them. Then fix the few wiring issues.

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[Mullaney]

I ended up with a new rescue this month. Got my hands on pretty clean 52 M38a1. Looks like someone started to restore but stopped. All the major parts, very little rust and the engine is free. Won't know if she starts up till I can clean out the fuel system. Going to go through all the brakes and axles and service them. Then fix the few wiring issues.

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Wow! It looks for the most part that it is unmolested...
Congratulations on getting it onto a trailer and to your place.

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[NDT]

Nice! Not a 1952 though. A 52 would have the hinged grille and thumbscrew retained battery box lid.

 

[Dead pilot]

Nice! Not a 1952 though. A 52 would have the hinged grille and thumbscrew retained battery box lid.

I was just going off what I was told. It doesn't have any data plates on her. I don't remember if there is frame marking on these to find out year

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[NDT]

Is the builder plate still on the sponson behind the driver (edit: passenger) seat? Will have paint all over it. This has the serial no on it.

 

[canadacountry]

not to cause anyone to laugh but I sure hope that thing will get one or better two cushion pads before it ever gets driven anywhere!
me can't help thinking what would happen to your poor "pulverized" kidney if you try drive that thing like it is now!!

 

[DeetFreek]

Is the builder plate still on the sponson behind the driver seat? Will have paint all over it. This has the serial no on it.

I sure hope you meant passenger seat.

I ended up with a new rescue this month. Got my hands on pretty clean 52 M38a1. Looks like someone started to restore but stopped. All the major parts, very little rust and the engine is free. Won't know if she starts up till I can clean out the fuel system. Going to go through all the brakes and axles and service them. Then fix the few wiring issues.

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Nice score!

 

[NDT]

I sure hope you meant passenger seat.



Nice score!

Well I did, but clearly my memory has failed me, it’s been 37 years since I replaced that plate on my A1.

 

[DeetFreek]

Well I did, but clearly my memory has failed me, it’s been 37 years since I replaced that plate on my A1.

Quite alright, mine isn't as sharp as it once was either. Paint and glue fumes...

 

[Dead pilot]

Is the builder plate still on the sponson behind the driver (edit: passenger) seat? Will have paint all over it. This has the serial no on it.

Well there's no plate there. Looks like it was removed when they were doing whatever they were doing

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[Dead pilot]

And today was a set back. Rear hubs don't want to come off. They spin so I know the shoes aren't stuck but no luck with the hub puller. Pulled the drum off and pulled out the brake parts out. Used a slide hammer to see if it would move and nothing. So I'm stuck for now.

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[Adrok]

Very cool acquisition! Keep the mis-match paint! Shows character. A lot of the pieces looks nicely original and usable / re-storable.

 

[Mullaney]

And today was a set back. Rear hubs don't want to come off. They spin so I know the shoes aren't stuck but no luck with the hub puller. Pulled the drum off and pulled out the brake parts out. Used a slide hammer to see if it would move and nothing. So I'm stuck for now.

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Try adjusting the shoes in on the rear axle.
You may have a set of drums that are worn and they won't slide off over the shoes.

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[Dead pilot]

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Try adjusting the shoes in on the rear axle.
You may have a set of drums that are worn and they won't slide off over the shoes.

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I was able to take the drums off the hub

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[Dead pilot]

Current state

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[Mullaney]

Current state

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So, you had no shoes on the back of the truck?

 

[Dead pilot]

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So, you had no shoes on the back of the truck?

It had shoes and everything in the drum and it all was free and moving. Don't know if the wheel cylinders were any good though. I was able to pull the 3 screws on the drum and drum came off the hub with no issue. The hub just won't come off the axle shaft

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[Mullaney]

It had shoes and everything in the drum and it all was free and moving. Don't know if the wheel cylinders were any good though. I was able to pull the 3 screws on the drum and drum came off the hub with no issue. The hub just won't come off the axle shaft

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Possibly start using PB Blaster or WD-40 or whatever your favorite penetrating oil is.
I also wonder (memory is failing me) if you need to remove a clip on each axle - inside the "pan" on the rear axle...

 

[Dead pilot]

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Possibly start using PB Blaster or WD-40 or whatever your favorite penetrating oil is.
I also wonder (memory is failing me) if you need to remove a clip on each axle - inside the "pan" on the rear axle...

Unless I missed something in the TM I didn't see anything about the other end of the axle to remove the hub. It just say to remove the wheel, dust cap, cotter pin then the nut. Then use hub puller and comes right off. But mine doesn't pop right off.
The odd thing is the pads and hardware look new but the wheel cylinders were old. So I have no idea. It's soaking now

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[tguinn]

don't know about the m38 model, but cj2a and 3a, 3b have to use a hub puller to get the off the axle stub