Locking hub on front and REAR of Bobbed Deuce

Can locking hubs be installed on the rear axle of a bobbed 4x4 Deuce?

I have a 68 AM General that I am going to bob. I would like to install a set of MANUAL locking hubs, one on the front, one on the rear, in order to improve "in-town" and parking lot maneuverability.

This truck will only see VERY light off-road use. BUT I want to be able to lock the hub when I want to. Getting out of the truck and turning the knob is fine with me.

I HAVE searched this forum for info on this subject ... but have only found confusing threads filled with speculation, opinion and etc.

IF locking can be installed on the rear axle ... can anybody recommend a manufacturer or brand name?

oddshot

WTF?

It will get poor fuel economy with both axles locked out.

I think a thread has already been started on this.

What's up pal ... did I pi** in yer corn flakes by mistake?


Tires spin at different rates in a corner ... all FOUR wheels.

My understand is that all axles of a Deuce are locked ... ALL wheels turn at the same rate.

By unlocking the rear AND the front the truck will corner at low speeds better.




I *think* I asked a reasonable question, in a reasonable manner.

Am I missing something?

oddshot

Dug started one on lockers check it out.

The deuce has open diffs. Lockout hubs will be good on the front, they will help with fuel econ. but they would be useless on the back. (it does not have lockers in it)

oddshot said:

What's up pal ... did I pi** in yer corn flakes by mistake?


Tires spin at different rates in a corner ... all FOUR wheels.

My understand is that all axles of a Deuce are locked ... ALL wheels turn at the same rate.

By unlocking the rear AND the front the truck will corner at low speeds better.




I *think* I asked a reasonable question, in a reasonable manner.

Am I missing something?

oddshot

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Your understanding is incorrect. No axles in the deuce are locked and unlocking one rear tire will net you with no ability to go. With that said, yes you can do it. Ouverson sells the hubs and double splines axles to perform the task. Total cost for 2 set of hubs and 2 DS axles would be about $1600.

AceHigh said:

It will get poor fuel economy with both axles locked out.

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Soooo ... you think with all wheels turning at the same speed in a corner ... fighting against one another ... the truck will bet BETTER MILEAGE???


Let me re-ask my question...


ahem.

Can locking hubs be installed on the rear axle of a bobbed 4x4 Deuce?

NOT a 6x6.

Can somebody recommend a manufacturer?


Please ... If you don't have a direct answer ... to a direct and specific question ... could we PLEASE save the band with.


PLEASE???


oddshot

oddshot said:

What's up pal ... did I pi** in yer corn flakes by mistake?


Tires spin at different rates in a corner ... all FOUR wheels.

My understand is that all axles of a Deuce are locked ... ALL wheels turn at the same rate.

By unlocking the rear AND the front the truck will corner at low speeds better.




I *think* I asked a reasonable question, in a reasonable manner.

Am I missing something?

oddshot

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Not shure who you are responding to but almost all deuces have open diffs. RESEARCH would provide this info. by instaling lockouts and unlocking both hus would be like having the truck in netural.....

Just pull the driveshafts (all of them) and you'll accomplish the same thing, and it won't cost you a thing

I think the people are all wondering about your motive since the deuce does not come with lockers as standard equipment and you don't have to kill the rear axle for any reason to make sharp turns. As far as who sells lockout hubs for the deuce, I do. JT out

It would be cheaper and easier to just put the transfer case in neutral.

KsM715 said:

The deuce has open diffs. Lockout hubs will be good on the front, they will help with fuel econ. but they would be useless on the back. (it does not have lockers in it)

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WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

It is VERY hard around here to get a straight up answer to a question.

Apparently I was sadly mis-informed. I was led to believe from the threads I read that the axles were ALL locked!!!

I SAID I had searched this topic ... and I said I was confused by all the crap I found.

Your reply is the FIRST I have seen that described the rear axles as being open rears.

Again, many thanks.

oddshot

I think some Marine Corps trucks did have lockers.

Nobody ment to piss in yer corn flakes (thought they where wheates) I thought it was a trick question. When you did the P.M. on your truck and Inspected & serviced your brakes I figured you would have seen they didnt have lockers. Sorry.

The only net improvement you'll see with locking hubs is reduced fuel consumption when installed on the front. This is because the axles are no longer spinning, nor is the gearset/pinion/front driveshaft. Now, as others have pointed out, the rear axle needs both axles to be engaged to the wheels/hubs. Otherwise the differential will simply allow the spider gears to turn and power will go to the axle shaft/shafts not connected to the wheel/hub assembly with the unlocked hub. The only way one could feasibly use a hub at each corner is if a detroit locker has been installed. That would replace the differential and cause both axles to move at the same speeds. (Unless one axle speed is overran by wheelspeed IE: the cornering difference you're concerned with) But honestly, the weight of a deuce (even bobbed) makes a locker manageable.

Here's a illustration of how a diff works, this is the same setup our deuces have.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBLE0_Sjqw4[/media]

Here's another one as well that will help you realize how things work.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bf9jpsnGQ[/media]

AceHigh said:

I think some Marine Corps trucks did have lockers.

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I belive you are right, but they are extreemly rare iirc

To the best of my knowledge, only Marine corps 900 sreies and all Bridge trucks had lockers in the USA. Norway ordered Deuces with lockers a lot of years ago and they were air lockers at all 3 axles with 3 air switches under the dash board, check with Davd Doyle for specifics. JT out

I'm putting a locking hub on the rear of my deuce, but I still have all my axles.