I am ashamed of myself. ID this part?

I thought I knew every part on an m38a1 . I was putting the clutch and bell housing back on. ran across this spring and cup. It was in my clutch and clutch linkage box.

Anyone know what it is and where it goes.

The top piece is called a clothes pin. That for your wife, when she does the laundry, and hangs the clothes outside on the line to dry.

Looks like a brake shoe retaining spring and twist cap

Looks like part of the steering drag link to me.

Neither of those. The spring is real heavy, so no brake retainer. not the drag link either.

what about a pressure plate spring
OR
a clutch spring from around the hub

I would tend to agree with 73m819 on the spring.

I would say a clutch spring to.

Ridgerunner said:

The top piece is called a clothes pin. That for your wife, when she does the laundry, and hangs the clothes outside on the line to dry.

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Ridgerunner; I hope your wife doesn't read your sexist post [even tho it was a great one]--she may hang you out to dry OR put the clothes pin on a tender part of your body until you cry for help.

Clutch spring makes sense, where does it go? Does not appear in the exploded view.


by the way Diesel bob, I love the Stangelove. a truly funny movie.

" We cannot allow a mine shaft Gap.....

It is a DAMPENER spring, it is part of a group of springs around the clutch hub

CLothes pin is correct; the other 2 look like the spring and retainer/contact for the horn button.

If you have INSTALLED the clutch, UNINSTALL the clutch, if you don't you are looking at clutch FAILURE

Hey Ron,

Clutch not installed yet, I am still puzzling over this spring. Where does it go? There the driven plate is new (dampening springs intact, and none missing from the old one. The pressure plate has all its springs.

Where does this one go? I've got good tech manuals, can't see it in any of the exploded views. What assembly is it part of?




I appreciate the help,

Doug

dougimes said:

Hey Ron,

Clutch not installed yet, I am still puzzling over this spring. Where does it go? There the driven plate is new (dampening springs intact, and none missing from the old one. The pressure plate has all its springs.

Where does this one go? I've got good tech manuals, can't see it in any of the exploded views. What assembly is it part of?
I appreciate the help,

Doug

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DOUG,
I went with the clutch spring because you found it in your clutch parts box, it is about the right size and strength.

Could it go on the throw out linkage, on the end of the cross rod, fits on the end up against a stop on the rod, this would spring load the rod when installed in a hole on the spring end, keeping it a hole at the other end. I can see this set up being used to take up frame flex.

The spring shown is too weak and too small to be a part of the clutch disk. I believe this spring and washer combo belong inside the cross-tube of the clutch linkage, so that the tube is spring loaded on the pivot balls. The cross-tube assembly mounts on ball studs that are attached to the frame and the trans.

After a closer look... you may be right about it belonging into the bell-crank tube.
I can see now, it definitely isn't from the clutch disk; I stand corrected!

G.

I did a clutch not long ago. Trying to remember if the throwout lever operating cable had a spring that held it in the throwout lever????? Or was that a different rig......sorry, not much help!

The spring and washer are shown in ORD 9 SNL G-740, page 50, items 'E' (washer) and 'G' (spring). They fit inside the cross tube, 'H' (described as 'lever') in the end that pivots on the ball stud, 'D', which is attached to the transfer case. Now you have what it is, and where it goes, including which end.

I have done a few of these. I learned to drive at age 10 in a 1947 CJ2a, bought a CJ6 when I was 18, an M170 when I was 25, a CJ3b when I was 30, and an M38 when I was 38. I am now 52, a retired mechanic (for medical reasons, my legs hurt too much to do it every day any more) have always done my own work, and still do. I've seen a few of these over the years, Willy's was nice in that once they had something that worked well, they kept building it the same way forever, thus we have huge parts interchangeability over a span of 40+ years on some parts.