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Am I having a pipe dream?

ccf460

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I currently own a m1009 cucv, and have not been having good luck on alternative fuel (WMO). I have a gentleman wanting to trade me a 1971 M35A2 (WOW, now that is a real MV) with the continental multi fuel ( he claims ), it has the winch, a homemade flatbed, and some rust. Are these things truly multifuel? I am thinking how cool it would be to bob this thing, fill it with filtered to 1 micron WMO from diesel powered fire trucks, and drive it to work at the fire station. Is it totally fruity to have this as a , for the most part, daily driver, and expect it to run almost exclusively on WMO? I don't mind diluting with gas or diesel a little, but my cucv dosen't even like an 80/20 diesel/wmo mix. I hope this is not just a pipe dream, but if it is please hit me now. Thanks.
 

sierra117

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As far I know it should be mulitfuel my m35a3 isn't though. Hey if he wants to trade straight up I would go for it as long as it runs and has a clear title.
 

dilligaf13

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1 micron WMO is no issue. I've heard that in the cold whether the WVO and WMO can get a little thick and need to be cut with diesel or gas. I live in S. Florida so cold and snow related issues are not something I'm familiar with.
 

Tlauden

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Not a daily basis driver, but I've ran up to about 95% WMO. They run fine, I've noticed a little power loss but nothing to bad. Mine smokes like a son of a b**** on oil though. But it doesnt bother me, a little smoke out the stack is better than money outta my wallet haha I've noticed in winter I need to turn on my master power switch and let the truck sit for about 45 seconds with the in tank pump running to get the engine to fire withing about 5 seconds of cranking. I'm not sure if that's a WMO issue or if I have a leaky fuel line. Filtering down to 1 micron you should be good. My filters clog up alot right now only because I don't have a way to filter to less than 7 micron. I wanna get a centrifuge and see how they work


Best of luck to ya!! You really can't go wrong with a deuce

Tyler
 

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What about the issue of driving on untaxed fuel?
 

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So, does that Massachusetts form cover State and federal tax? How often do you need to file and pay? What happens if you miss a filing date?

Since the ULSD fuels, I would think that might be a worry too. Why would your state(or the Federal Gov) allow you to burn any fuel with over 15PPM on the road, if you pay the road taxes?
 

ccf460

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I called the North Carolina Dept. of Revenue, unless the vehicle is over 21000 or 26000 lbs. (don't pin me on the exact#, but it was way more than a deuce), they don't have a way to track efficiently, and say they don't think alternative fuel use is high enough to justify trying to tax it here. I think the weight issue may also be part of the federal tax, not much worried about the federal in my small town area.
 

6x6guy

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I know a guy ( not saying who - hes been on the site) runs 100% waste oil, trans fluid with a little 90 weight in his daily runner for over 2 years. He has a complete waste pressurized purification system and takes about 5 minutes to process 1 gallon. He admits a little less power using the mixture but added a Pyro and reset the fuel intake setting, making it a little less noticeable and adding power to his truck.

I have to get into the same mind set that every abandoned vehicle/truck is a potential fueling
station for my trucks when the s**t hits the fan.

I just have to be prepared in the event it happens. :roll:
 

6x6guy

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I know a guy ( not saying who - hes been on the site) runs 100% waste oil, trans fluid with a little 90 weight in his daily runner for over 2 years. He has a complete waste pressurized purification system and takes about 5 minutes to process 1 gallon. He admits a little less power using the mixture but added a Pyro and reset the fuel intake setting, making it a little less noticeable and adding power to his truck.

I have to get into the same mind set that every abandoned vehicle/truck is a potential fueling
station for my trucks when the s**t hits the fan.

I just have to be prepared in the event it happens. :roll:
 
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eagle4g63

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I have a multi and I run almost ANYTHING I can get my hands on. I did bypass my fdc(the truck was a dog even on straight diesel so no worries about being too hot) In the warm months I run 80% or more oil(depends on what else I put in......gear lube or trans fluid) just to make it thin enough. Now with the winter I am running a little bit more gas or diesel to thin a little bit more. The biggest thing I notice is when I first start it(when it is cold out) the thinker it is the harder to start.....then if you don't give it a chance to warm up it is a bit sluggish till it does. With the fuel cycling all the time it starts to warm up your fuel in the tank so it flows better once the truck warms up.

Also I have been running my truck EVERY day since I bought it......well there was that one week it was down waiting for a new clutch.....but every other day so far. I also have changed my primary fuel filter to a spin on and use a 10 micron filter...in secondary and final I use a 10 then 5 as they were suppose to be, and I only filter my oil down to 10 micron(sometimes down to 6 if I am not too sure about the oil I get)

I love my truck and it's ability to run anything and would trade a cucv for one any day!!
 

dilligaf13

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As the WVO or WMO was taxed when it was initially purchased for it's primary use I don't see why or how it could be taxed again. I think if some one goes to the effort of making a stink about you trying to be green by running recycled fuel they have too much time on thier hands or really, really don't like you.
 

eagle4g63

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It's the highway tax they are talking about not the sales tax. Motor oil only has the sales tax, but fuel has both sales tax and highway tax.:x

The problem I have with the tax is a simple one.....when you plug your little smart, green, eco friendly, little gas/electric hybrid in to the wall.....do you claim the "highway tax" on the electrical part that you car runs down the road on? How can they get away without having to pay their share of the highway tax? As I see it I am only helping my vehicle get better gas mileage!!
 

deuceaid

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It's the highway tax they are talking about not the sales tax. Motor oil only has the sales tax, but fuel has both sales tax and highway tax.:x

The problem I have with the tax is a simple one.....when you plug your little smart, green, eco friendly, little gas/electric hybrid in to the wall.....do you claim the "highway tax" on the electrical part that you car runs down the road on? How can they get away without having to pay their share of the highway tax? As I see it I am only helping my vehicle get better gas mileage!!
I was about to say the same thing, then someone would say" oh, you get taxed by the electric company" what if You have solar panels?
 

dikwks

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I have to get into the same mind set that every abandoned vehicle/truck is a potential fueling
station for my trucks when the s**t hits the fan.

I like the way you think.:grd:
 
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dikwks

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The problem I have with the tax is a simple one.....when you plug your little smart, green, eco friendly, little gas/electric hybrid in to the wall.....do you claim the "highway tax" on the electrical part that you car runs down the road on? How can they get away without having to pay their share of the highway tax? As I see it I am only helping my vehicle get better gas mileage!!

Excellent point!!
 

Blind Driver

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What about the issue of driving on untaxed fuel?
When was the last time the tax man knocked on your door?

1 micron WMO is no issue. I've heard that in the cold whether the WVO and WMO can get a little thick and need to be cut with diesel or gas. I live in S. Florida so cold and snow related issues are not something I'm familiar with.
85% WMO to 15% RUG filtered to 2 micron is pretty standard for most any truck. If the fuel isn't centrifuged, you can get a sludge build up in the bottom of the tank.
 
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