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M1101 and F150 successful recovery

mikey

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Yesterday I recovered my M1101 from Ft Drum, NY. I spent about four hours reading the forums leading up to my trip. I found a lot of useful info and a lot of "can I recover my trailer with a <insert vehicle>" threads. Gathering info from multiple threads, my recovery was a success. I hope that this write up will provide useful info in a single post for members contemplating a similar recovery.

Recovery:
Ft. Drum, NY to Lake Como, PA, 203 miles, 3hrs 17 minutes.

Recovery vehicle:
2010 Ford F150 Lariat (5.4L 3V Triton V-8 @ 320HP) with towing package (Tow haul button, class V hitch, suspension stabilization, engine braking)

Recovered trailer:
2007 M1101
Key facts:
Weight 1460lbs
Lunette height 29.5"

http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_ltt-hmt_trailer_m1101_m1102.php

Accessories:
Pintle hook:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_21912_21912

12" riser:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200442409_200442409

Grade 8 bolts and nuts (Lowes part #'s 880271 and 880200

Tow lights:
http://www.amazon.com/Install-Magne...1391102137&sr=8-9&keywords=trailer+tow+lights

DOT reflective tape:
The DOT tape did not arrive in time. However, I list it here because I use it on my other trucks and it is a must in my opinion. It provides GREAT visibility.

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Fort Drum:
Gate personal were extremely friendly and easy to work with. After entering the main gate, the GL lot is almost exactly 1 mile down the main road on the left. You'll see a brown fence and it's building number 1301. The GL staff was wonderful. The woman was very nice and walked out to my trailer with me. The bucket operator removed all the snow around my trailer and angled it perfectly for me to back up to it. They were standing by while I hooked it up and assisted me in testing the lights and brakes. When I first arrived they also gave me advice on "freeing" the trailer. Apparently all trailer jacks were covered in up to 5 inches of ice. They broke a few jacks trying to move trailers with the fork lift. The advice was to hook up to the trailer and rock the truck forward and back gently. Luckily my trailer was not frozen to the ground. :) Overall a great experience.

The weather:
The weather did not want to cooperate. However, of my three recoveries to date, Mechanicsburgh, New Castle and Ft Drum, I've never had a recovery that did not involve snow or a torrential downpour, so this was par for the course. Weather was 7f, -15 with windchill. Wind was about 10mph steady with gusts up to 30mph. It was a blizzard and snow was blowing sideways.

The recovery:
I hooked up the trailer, installed the tow lights and tested the brakes. I planned on removing the top, but chose not to. Forgive me for being a nancy, but all the straps and even the top itself were frozen with ice. Not to mention you had a limited amount of time to be exposed before you lost feeling in your extremities.

Important Tip: The safety chains DID NOT reach my truck!

We tested the surge brakes. They did not work. I chose to continue regardless. Our first stop was only miles away. We went to Home Depot to resolve the safety chain issue. I purchased 1' of 5k lb chain and two 5k lb quick links. I ran the chain through my hitch assembly with one quick link at each end. Pictures below.

At our first stop, we tested the lights and I inspected the pintle again. Left lights did not work, brake or signal. An inspection of the line revealed a kink. Back into Home depot for wire stripper, twist connectors and electrical tape. 20 minutes later (sub zero temp with snow blown wind) I go to plug in the lights to my truck and all 4 cables brake at the 4 pin connector! WTF? Back into home depot to buy a new 4 pin connector. 10 minutes later, that's repaired and another kink in another wire that was not there. The wire was very cheap and was breaking at the slightest pressure due to the cold. For the record, the wire on the new 4 pin connector was thicker and did NOT have issues. End result, I absolutely would NOT recommend this trailer light kit. Yes it was cheap and you get what you pay for. However, ALL the negative reviews pointed towards weak magnets, which was not a concern because the trailer is aluminum. No reviews mentioned inferior wiring. You get what you pay for though, right?

The first 45 minutes of the trip was a blizzard. Side winds on 81 were gusting very heavily. I had both hands on the wheel, music off and was focused. The trailer felt awkward in the wind and snow, although I did maintain 55mph.

Nearly an hour into the trip I hit dry roads. After a coffee break and inspection, everything was fine. I then proceeded to head home at a steady 65mph. From that point on the trailer was perfect! It trailed perfectly and for the most part, I could not tell it was there. It felt no more noticeable than my $500 8x4 lowes trailer with my ATV (500lbs). You knew it was there, but could not feel much at all.

The remainder of the recovery was incident free with several stops for inspection along the way.

Conclusion and summary:
I knew from reading threads, that i COULD tow the trailer home with my F150. I did NOT know it would trail so nicely. I bought the pintle thinking it was a one time purchase. I have no fear of taking this trailer any distance with my F150. It trailed fine and was barely noticeable, even with the cover on. With the brakes fixed, I'll take this trailer anywhere with the F150.

The night before my recovery I read the thread with the back and forth about the safety of the 12" riser. I feared I made a terrible mistake and thought about not using it. While I am no structural engineer and while I've only used it once, I have absolutely no fear whatsoever of this device. I reserve the right to alter this opinion with more mileage, but as of right now, when used on paved roads, within the limits of the riser, and with periodic inspections, I do not see any issue whatsoever.

Not only did my F150 recover the M1101. It did so with ease. This is an excellent trailer, it tracks well and it's very light compared to others.

I hope this info may help others wondering about recovering a similar trailer with a similar vehicle.

Mikey

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mikey

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Thanks for the advice. I have read a lot of your posts on your trailer mods. The "main" tow vehicle will be my 939, so I'll need all the height I can get, but thanks for the info.

I believe (visual measurement) that the trailer was about 4" to 6" wider on each side. Enough to see the edge of the wheel, but absolutely no obstruction or blind spots at all. Even with the cargo cover on, it was no problem to pull.

Mikey
 

mydingo

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Miley
I also recovered a m1101 from Fort Drum the day before you in the same weather. My tow vehicle was a half ton Chevy with only a 6in rise on the pintle . Trailer was nose down a bit but pulled fine . I used the trailer adapter from Erik's military for the lights along with replacing the tail lamps. My trip was 280 miles one way and 12 hrs long. What a great trailer,on the drive home I sometimes forgot I was pulling a trailer.

Glenn
 

mikey

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Miley
I also recovered a m1101 from Fort Drum the day before you in the same weather. My tow vehicle was a half ton Chevy with only a 6in rise on the pintle . Trailer was nose down a bit but pulled fine . I used the trailer adapter from Erik's military for the lights along with replacing the tail lamps. My trip was 280 miles one way and 12 hrs long. What a great trailer,on the drive home I sometimes forgot I was pulling a trailer.

Glenn
I was on the fence about the M1101 or a cheaper and older M105. I may still pick up an M105, but I have absolutely no regrets with the M1101. I would NOT want to pull an M105 home with the F150. I'm sure it's doable, but it would probably be a whole different ballgame.

I once drove a topless deuce home from Mechanicsburg in January. It wasn't supposed to be a recovery, but our shipper was a no show. As I got half way home and it started to snow, I knew this was going to be an interesting hobby :) My M931A2 recovery a few weeks ago was 8 hours of pouring rain and rush hour traffic in Philly. This recovery was easy compared to those. ;)

This trailer will be used mostly with the green iron, so I'll keep the 24v bulbs and just rewire the tow lights with some good copper. But, I could definitely see this being a great trailer for regular use with the 12v bulbs and the adapter.

Good luck with yours Glenn. Perhaps I'll see you at Sussex!
 

mydingo

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I will be at Sussex as I was last year along with my wife and 2 dogs,we had a a great time at that show so well put together. I had all my M923s shipped from New Castle. Got 2 of them shipped on the same truck last May. Also I have property not to far from you in Conklin NY . Had the 5 ton up last year about 120 mile drive for me.

Thanks for posting it's going to help a lot of people with there recovery,only wish you did your recovery a few days before me that way I would of not got lost on base .....
 

TXFirefighter

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When I picked up my M105 and M1102 I had already made a civi to mil plug adapter and just left the 24v bulbs in place. They are a little dim but the brake lights showed up fine for day light operations. Home I came!
Oh, the 105 I drug home with an F150, sure knew it was there at 12 mpg! But the 1102, I pulled back with my F350 dually and dang near forgot it was there.
 

LandrysGuns

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I have a F-150 2wd and recovered an M101 a few summers ago and it was a breeze to pull. I needed a higher hitch, but we did fine on the 2 hour ride home. I'm looking at a bunch of 1101 models at Polk at teh moment and with this setup you showed, it will be a cake walk. Thanks for the info.
 

FloridaAKM

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I have recovered three M1102's to date this summer with a Toyota Tacoma 4x4 & a pocket full of gas money. The one way distances were 200 to 320 miles home each time with no brake or axle problems that stopped the recovery process. The last one with the bows & cover had to come off to stop the wind sail effect for the 320 mile drive home, but all else was good with no high heat problems on the axles or brakes. I did notice that one trailer had corrosion on the chromed rods on the shock absorbers, that will probably have to be removed before it destroys the shocks after I put a load on it! Any thoughts?
 

FP1201

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I bought one too and brought it home Thursday using a 4x2 Ford Ranger with the 2.3l 4cyl and yes it was "nose down"
Samantha is really a cool gal.
I work on Drum and am glad no one's had any problems (outside the butt-hold deep snow)
Should I keep this one, and as of now the plan is to make a drop hitch with a ball mount: given where I work, it won't be a problem....already made a set of 12V Stop/tail/turn lights from a 24V Military lights, and a replacement whip with RV connector.
The one thing I didn't check were the lights: SOME of the LED lights WILL work in the 10~24 volt range, so try them with a 12V battery before condemning them for civilian use.
 

FloridaAKM

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Get one to match your Hummer & it will be a plug n play like it's supposed to be, not like the rest of us having to convert everything to make it work street legal.
 

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Congrats on your successful recovery. I'd like to offer one option and one observation regarding trailer lights. Observation, less expensive towing lights are fair weather friends. When exposed to extreme temps or adverse conditions, they show their value. I'd always either built them or purchased from AW Direct. Option for lights. If you think you may use it for both vehicles you could always use the mil LED multivolt lights. As far as wiring, I like the idea of adding a truck side plug to the riser hitch assy. You can adapt that to your 4 flat of whatever plug your truck has. Neither vehicle modded and the plug/ adapter stays with the hitch where it's needed.
 

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I would NOT want to pull an M105 home with the F150. I'm sure it's doable, but it would probably be a whole different ballgame.
A 1/2 ton truck will pull a empty M105 fine. I'm not sure I'd want to do it in the snow though.
 

mikey

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Very funny to see this thread revived after over a year because I'm be heading to Ft. Drum this Friday to recover another M1101.

Why don't I ever bid on trucks or trailers when we have nice weather?

Mikey
 

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Very funny to see this thread revived after over a year because I'm be heading to Ft. Drum this Friday to recover another M1101.

Why don't I ever bid on trucks or trailers when we have nice weather?

Mikey
Memorial day to Labor Day: anything in between is a bonus.
 

FP1201

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Congrats on your successful recovery. I'd like to offer one option and one observation regarding trailer lights. Observation, less expensive towing lights are fair weather friends. When exposed to extreme temps or adverse conditions, they show their value. I'd always either built them or purchased from AW Direct. Option for lights. If you think you may use it for both vehicles you could always use the mil LED multivolt lights. As far as wiring, I like the idea of adding a truck side plug to the riser hitch assy. You can adapt that to your 4 flat of whatever plug your truck has. Neither vehicle modded and the plug/ adapter stays with the hitch where it's needed.
You can easily dis-assemble the Military lights and install a double filament bulb socket inside.
 
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