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HummerRecovery

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Is it hard to learn to drive a deuce ? I am really interested in buying one but am not sure whether i will be able to drive it or if i will have the skills to repair it, do they require a lot of complicated work that someone with limited knowledge would not be able to do on his own ?
 

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If you know how to drive a stick, it's easy.

skills = can you repair/diagnose classic cars from the Sixties? If so, you can handle a deuce, although some of the tools and components will be larger.
 

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I believe the Deuce was designed for ease of use. The military wanted an all purpose medium duty truck that any 17 year old off the farm, from the inner city, or from the 'burbs would be able to drive with little training.

Download a repair manual from here, read through it, and decide if you want to tackle repairs on your own.

Good Luck!
 

hammerdown

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Best Move i ever made, loads of M series to choose from!!!!!!!

Besides this forum is the best in the world for getting any info you require for repairs..

Id have 2 trucks if i could..

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:
 

Wildchild467

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Driving the deuce isnt bad at all. you definately have a lot going on sometimes, shifting, canceling your own turnsignals, looking to see if you're going to hit the curb while you're turning.....like another member on here said, half the fun of driving the deuce is that you actually have to drive it! i also say i never had so much fun going so slow :-D
 

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You're in Texas... hopefully some of our TX members will chime in. Your best bet is to see if someone near you will give you a hands-on demo of the Deuce. Ride with them, and then give it a shot yourself.
 

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Driving a deuce is like driving any full sized pickup truck from the 1960's with a manual transmission, and manual steering. The deuce's steering is generally manual, but the steering wheel is huge to give you extra leverage. They are slow, lumbering beasts. It sometimes seems like it takes the entire duration of a traffic light to get across the intersection. Making a sharp right hand turn at a stop sign will take a lot of revolutions of the steering wheel, and if you let the deuce get going too fast, you will end up in the oncoming lane before you have fully made your turn. You won't be able to turn the wheel if the truck is stopped. It isn't good for the truck to even try. You will learn to like Low range 1st/Reverse gear for maneuvering.

The transmissions are truck transmissions at their very heavy best. You don't just slam them into gear, you have to move the shift lever very deliberately. To go from first to second, you press in the clutch, press the lever straight up to neutral, and pause, slide it over to the second gear slot, and apply pressure straight up, and when it wants to, it will go up into second... release the clutch... None of this diagonal shifting stuff you can get away with on passenger car transmissions. The clutch, and brake pedals, push down to the floor, not back to the firewall. You will have to train new muscles.

Like most large trucks of the era, turn signals don't automatically cancel. They do have a very bright green light that flashes in your face as they blink, so you should notice if you leave them on.

From the driver's seat, deuces feel like a full sized pickup truck. Because the cab is narrow, and you are up high looking over the fenders, they seem much smaller than they really are. And they are much shorter than most any commercial cargo truck you will find... dump truck sized.

Although they are slow, 45MPH is comfortable, highway driving is a breeze! They just go and go and go!

You MUST wear hearing protection. If you don't you will end up stone deaf. They are painfully loud inside. The toll booth operators put their hands over their ears when I pull up.... but not to worry, they get their revenge by charging you for 3 axles.

Repairs are simple. Everything weighs 2x what it does on a pickup truck. About the only part you won't be fixing generally is the injection pump. It is not that it is complicated, but rather that it requires special test equipment to set it up. The manuals are excessively detailed. They only thing they don't tell you is why things are done the way they are... that isn't something you are supposed to know, I guess.

Parts are difficult. You won't be finding them at your local NAPA, for the most part. You will learn to love/hate ODIron, Spruce Mt. Surplus, Saturn Surplus, TMJ Murray, ...

-Chuck
 

wb1895

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Be ready to buy some larger tools and have some frosty malt beverages ready for your friends when you need help changing out the heavier parts. But working on it is VERY simple.
 

gunboy1656

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I learned to drive a deuce/ stick with a load of kids in the back of the truck. Never stalled it out, no injuries not even a scratch on anyone or anything.

Just always remember how big, tall and wide it is, and you will do fine.
 

hklvette

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Stumps pretty much nailed it. Don't drive a deuce if you're in a hurry, unless its the only thing that can get out of your driveway due to weather.

Oh, and you will also gain a new appreciation for how easy it is to park a regular car in a parking lot. A deuce will take two spaces (a pull-through)
 
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Barrman

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Where are you in Texas?


I have taken a pair of M35's to parades, asked people if they wanted to drive one, showed them how it worked and had trouble getting them out after the parade was over.
 

Capt.Marion

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Oh, and you will also gain a new appreciation for how easy it is to park a regular car in a parking lot. A deuce will take two spaces (a pull-through)
Not true. It will fit in 1 spot... when you've got an opening across from where you want to park so you can maneuver in to the spot. With the winch it sticks out about a foot and a half in the front, but it isn't bad at all.
 

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It isn't hard to learn. My first 'stick' was a Deuce!
It might take longer to master these trucks. But its at least simple.

PS. my other car is a little tin can, dodge. So I can into this without any real understanding of the beast.
 

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Ignore all the previous posts. I, along with my #1 driving coach assistant, Mr. Jim Beam, will have you driving like a professional stunt driver in 60 minutes or less. Mailboxes, picket fences and slow pedestrians are no match for the skills that will develop in your mind as the lesson goes along. Soon you will learn how to blast through the ditch and come out the other side with all 10 wheels in the air and the neighbors clothesline flapping in the the breeze like colorful pennants. Word of your miraculous achievments will spread quickly and soon TV news crews will arrive to record this feat. A police escort will also show up and be astonished at how nimble YOUR truck is even with 8 shopping carts from Wal-Mart wedged underneath. (Great spark show at night)
 

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My first stick is my deuce, part of the reason I bought it is I wanted a cheap vehicle to learn on. So far so good, be slow but deliberate when driving. Most of my early up-shifting stalls was related to not being deliberate enough with the accelerator. My wife comes out to watch every time I roll out and comments how well I shift (no grinding) and I do have a little bit of uphill leaving the driveway. I follow the rules, First-Gear-First, etc no fancy split-shifting yet that you see others do with the transfer case. Since I am a novice with manual transmissions I do try to practice the basics, upshifting, downshifting, hill stops, etc. Its good to be able to handle all the situations. I've found the lack of power steering isn't actually that bad.

Last week I finally drove it into the office (peer pressure) which included about a dozen stops and turns but made it in without any stalls, I've actually never stalled it on a public way (knock-on-wood). At lunch I let the experienced stick-shifters take it for a spin, including a retired ranger who was qualified to drive deuces, and I dare say I drove it better then them, but in their defense I've had more intimate experience with it. :driver:

Before taking it on the road I did all the maintenance myself which included changing 5 steel brake lines, 2 brake hoses, and the required bleeding (built a home made pressure bleeder), and flushed the fuel tank. I've replaced the speedometer cable and converted the oil and primary fuel filters to spin-ons and changed the secondary fuel filters. I also replaced the clutch return spring, also tightened all the coolant hoses and changed the oil and repacked the bearings on an axle that was leaking and checked all the fluid vents. Made sure I could remove the lug nuts and change a tire, etc. Not really expensive for any of this (brake lines are $6 a piece at NAPA, speedometer cable $35, spin-ons were elective, etc but it does nickel and dime you (especially if you need tools) and it does take time.

Being familiar with air tools helps a lot, especially to run impact wrenches or air-actuated jacks. I already had a large air compressor but needed a bigger impact wrench. Do lots of research, read the PMs and TMs and search this site, it'll enhance the driving and maintenance experience. To do the actual work you just need the desire, have done the research, and a little ingenuity.
 

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Driving is easy and turning is a workout.

Is it expensive? not really but it costs money to operate. Fuel, oil, filters, tires, parts.. Etc. I spend 100 a month. I replace any thing I think is broken or going to break.
 

HummerRecovery

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Thank you guys very much, i really appreciate y'alls input. So how do you all store them ? I live in a neighboorhood who would throw a fit if i had one in my driveway (so would the others living in the house), do you all just live on ranches or do some of you all rent little spaces to keep them? If so, about how much does it cost you?
 

jdknech

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i was 19 when i got my M35, and it has taught me alot about driving! i had driven "big trucks" before(52 dodge fire truck(mine) and a 65 chevy dump truck[dads]) but the m35 is the best, it is VERY easy to drive, and easy to forget that it is a #14,000 truck... just use you head, and you'll be fine...
 
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