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Alternate Use of the Multi-Fuel Engine????

Flat Black

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get a Deuce and replace the multi-fuel with a real motor like a 12 valve Cummins or Detroit :)
then take the Multi-fuel and put it onto a skid coupled to a big ass generator.

Now you have a cool end of the world truck and a generator that will run on **** near anything.
 

jollyroger

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The LDT 465 with C turbo is supposed to be 134 HP and 330 TQ. The LDS 5 ton engine is supposed to be 200-210HP. I am not sure of the TQ. This is off the top of my head. I will do some searching.
 

jamesfrom180

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Important numbers would be peak power and torque at what RPM. From there its simple to find what implement spins in that range or what you could gear reduce/increase to match the power requirements.

Massive roto-tiller comes to mind, boat, winch, trolly, anything hydraulic, the possibilities could be almost endless. That dyno test sounded off to me, could be my speakers but was that a White engine? :jumpin:

P.S. Craziest application for diesel I've seen is a Duramax in an Air boat.
 
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98taco3

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been thinking about the generator application lately. Id like to set up one big enough to run the whole house and the multifuel would be perfect in that application. Disaster strikes and you can get fuel out of **** near anything.
 

Mark2X2

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Use the engine to it's full potential.

been thinking about the generator application lately. Id like to set up one big enough to run the whole house and the multifuel would be perfect in that application. Disaster strikes and you can get fuel out of **** near anything.
My friend who did the LDT in the crane, built a shop out of a pole shed. He put in floor heat in the new concrete floor. To heat the floor he used a generator engine with bad generator. He ran old anti freeze in the floor and circulated it through the engine. He used used oil fuel mix. Worked well until it got real cold and he used a little to much oil and it got to thick and ran out of fuel. He also said listening to the engine run all day sucked. He now has a boiler.
In Disaster conditions run a gen set in your shop, use the exhaust to heat the shop through some sort of piping, use the hot water off the engine to heat the house and use the electric for what ever. My old Fluid Power Instructor use to say an engine is only 1/3 efficent, 1/3 out the exhaust, 1/3 out the radiator, 1/3 out the crank.
 

Flat Black

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an engine is 100% efficient (energy and matter are neither created nor destroyed only changed in form) so if you want to make use of more than just crank power (generator, driveshaft, etc) then you should definitely use the other energy sources like heat that the engine produces.

That is exactly where I was going with my previous post. The engine could provide electricity, it will run on almost anything, you could circulate coolant through a large loop for heating (though this type of heat does not adjust well and takes a long time to heat the space if its cold). If you dont want to listen to the engine run, put it outside or in a sound proof enclosure.

It is easy enough to pipe heat exchangers (for air or domestic hot water) to this location and you would have everything in one "mechanical room" maybe a detached shed or similar. All pumps, tanks, compressors, exchangers, fans, etc would be located there for ease of operation and service, etc.

What was used for the "generator" portion of the genset pictured on the previous page?

Unless you have a massively huge house with no insulation 100kw is way overkill for a house. You should be able to run the basics on 5-7kw and turn on everything in your whole entire house at once should only take 15-20 kw.
 
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rchalmers3

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I am imagineering a trailer mounted power unit for generating backup electrical power. If the multi-fuel engine manufacturers ever produced a 4 cylinder model, perhaps then the engine output would be better matched to a 10kw genset.

If said 4 cylinder could accept a governor to accommodate load variations, then it would be even better suited for the task.

Anyone know if the multi-fuel was a modular design?

*EDIT* Hey, what about running the six on 4 cylinders???

Rick
 
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SCSG-G4

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The LD-465 engines used in the White and Oliver farm tractors were strictly diesel, having only a 17 to 1 compression ratio (different pistons). They were governed to 2200 rpm under load and would last a long time between rebuilds. This information has been posted several times before on this web site.
 

Mark2X2

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That is what I was thinking, IF? you could do that than you could make the other 2 make air(giant air compressor).

Anyway cool idea about multi generator.....something I have been tempted to do for a while.

I'm not much of a mechanic, but if you drop the two cylinders won't it miss and be really of balance? With the six cylinders aren't you firing a cylinder every 60 degrees of rotation. If you drop two cylinders there is a big gap in the firing order, my thoughts it would run like crap.
 

ODdave

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You would also need to re-grind the camshaft to make it worth while. Engines have "valve overlap" , compressors do not. Compressors also pump every cycle.
 
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