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1097R1 with a 200A gen intermiten charging issue

Venio

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I got a 2005 R1 form the auction a little over a month ago. Pretty much all operational beside LOTS of loose stuff that Red River Army Depot had left. I'm going to rant about this some other time. However, there is an odd issue with the generator. It will ether start charging with a little delay, a lot of delay or not at all. Anther odd thing is the time it takes for the Wait light to turn off. Usually if the time is too short and the engine is cool it will start but the gen would not come on. At first I though it got to be the voltage regulator but those things usually ether work or they are a toast. I'm not sure how the protective module ties in with the generator, but it definitely does not act right. I went trough some of the connections and used dielectric grease to better the contact, HMMWV dwells now in pretty humid and corrosive environment.
 

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I got a 2005 R1 form the auction a little over a month ago. Pretty much all operational beside LOTS of loose stuff that Red River Army Depot had left. I'm going to rant about this some other time. However, there is an odd issue with the generator. It will ether start charging with a little delay, a lot of delay or not at all. Anther odd thing is the time it takes for the Wait light to turn off. Usually if the time is too short and the engine is cool it will start but the gen would not come on. At first I though it got to be the voltage regulator but those things usually ether work or they are a toast. I'm not sure how the protective module ties in with the generator, but it definitely does not act right. I went trough some of the connections and used dielectric grease to better the contact, HMMWV dwells now in pretty humid and corrosive environment.
When it is not charging turn on the heater fan and see if it is working, if not it is likely the EESS (protection) box not feeding exciter voltage to the alt.
There is a relay in the box that does that and they can go bad.
It is normal for the alt to delay after starting it is called soft start.
 

Venio

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When it is not charging turn on the heater fan and see if it is working, if not it is likely the EESS (protection) box not feeding exciter voltage to the alt.
There is a relay in the box that does that and they can go bad.
It is normal for the alt to delay after starting it is called soft start.
Is this something that can be repaired or should I start looking for a EESS box replacement?
 

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Is this something that can be repaired or should I start looking for a EESS box replacement?
Figure out what the issue is first, if the only problem is the relay it can easily be replaced, if the EESS box has other problems (IE glow plug control issues) then a replacement manual box is one good alternative, Milcommoguy sells one
 

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The regulators can fail over time, causing charging issues that come and go. For a month or so before I replaced mine, it would work, then it wouldn't, and I'd occasionally have to pull over, shut off the truck, and tap on the outside of the regulator with a small chink of metal until it would start charging again when the truck was restarted.

Here is the manufacturer's troubleshooting guide for the 200 amp system
 
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