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Okay Whiterabbit we agree on the angle thing. Now for the snatch block the attachment point on the load will see the total weight of the pull mired, rolling or whatever right? So the block will see the complete weight at the hook or shackle or however it is attached so wouldn't the block need to...

So I guess that was not clear so Zebedee, let me clear it up, the front winch on the 816 is rated at 20,000 lbs. So if I want to be safe I need a 40,000 lbs rated snatch block, correct? Yeah Mississippi delta gumbo mud! Zebedee I have snatch blocks in all different sizes not just 3/4 and...

Okay Ron on a 2-1 pull you need up to double the winch rating? So if I want to be safe with a 20,000 lbs winch I need a 40,000 lbs snatch block?

Thanks for the refresher on the blocks, but I must disagree with you on slope, any increase from °1-°90 will increase the load, from just a little bit to 100%.

Okay so quick follow up question I know the block would not need to be 48k but would it need to be 24k or 12k? And what about the 2nd block?