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both of mine that i took off i had to fight, the shoes were backed off, you could move the drum and axle a bit, it was just rust between the drum and the hub
when i had to pull some rear drums on the 819, i had to use a 4 pound hammer and tap HARD outward all the way around for a bit to get them to come off, do not hit on the edge , hit on the drum itself at a angle outward
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