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Exactly. It has been confirmed to me directly by the WSDOT in multiple emails that the GVWR on the data plate is what they go by. The GVWR's are combined when a trailer is in tow. When I was looking at gooseneck trailers I had to find one that when combined with the 12,000 GVWR of my pickup kept...

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Collector vehicle plates = no loads allowed (and no CDL required) and it can only be used for occasional driving. Non-collector plates = limited to the 26,000 lb GVWR or GCWR. It would appear that we are in agreement on the law and how it applies. PM...

I checked on historic plates with the DOL here in Spokane WA. I was told that it would get me around the weight rating issue but that I couldn't legally haul anything in the bed (not even so much as a personal dump run) and no towing trailers. I can't wait to jump the line into Idaho so that I...

That's not my personal experience. I had a 4700LP that had a GVWR of 23,000 that I poured a ton of money into just to find out that all I could legally use it for was to pull my 5th wheel. Even putting my car trailer behind it put me over the 26,000 limit for GVWR and GCWR. I was stopped by the...

Exactly my point. Granted, a lot of my expense is stacks of spare parts that I hope to never need but mine would have broken $15k quite easily just bringing her up to snuff.

I completely forgot about the winch. That was on my must have list and luckily mine did come with it. Honestly, I think a lot of people just throw an insane price on a truck hoping to snag a fish so to say. There's a Deuce and an M105 trailer not far from me listed for $36,000. Other than a...

From what I've seen a LOT depends on the area and the availability in that area. You have to decide exactly what you want and what it's worth to you. Personally, I was looking for a 100% rust and damage free truck with the drop side bed and split brakes so I was limited to the AF Deuces. I was...