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  1. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Still no long side yet. I have a feeling it will show up soon as the guy I'm getting it from really wants the Detroit locker I have. I'll let you know when it arrives Robert.
  2. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Thats, not bad at all. When I last contacted them 3 or 4 years ago, the length was in issue. Guess it's not now! So at $155 and maybe $20 shipping plus $275 for a single hub if you can get a buddy to split a set puts it at around $450. I would take a long time to recoupe the expense in fuel...
  3. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    My concern and Roberts too, was the design of the Selectro and if it would support the weight of the axle shaft. Unlike the front that has a bushing, the rear will be totally supported by the axle gear and the hub. Spicergear has em and says the hub design will support the weight then I'm OK...
  4. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    I've pulled axles where they pop right out. Sometimes that last bolt bonds a bit too. I know when I put the axles back in I head right for the bottle jack. I've learned that its easier to just jack up that wheel than to fight with it. If the Selectro is like the old Spicer, it will unlock, or...
  5. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Well Lee, not really. The interaxle driveshaft will still be connected so the diff will still be spinning at road speed. By unlocking that one hub you can allow differetiation between drive axles. the difference between the speed of the hub and speed of the axle will be negligible. It also helps...
  6. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Sounds great Robert. As soon as the axle gets here i'll measure it and then get it shipped up to you. Since the spindle is the raw casting, what's your thoughts on the bushing or torrington bearing to support the axle with the Selectro Hub? We need an exploded diagram of the hub. Heck, what we...
  7. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Moser can't make the axle in the length we need. I spoke with them at the Gators a few years ago and they assured me that they could. When I called to order one, they said they can't make it that long. Robert, I've got a long front axle showing up here shortly. I'll measure it when it arrives.
  8. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Lee, sorta like that. No sense in reinventing the wheel, the hub is already out there. Robert is working on a doublesplined shaft so that the hub can be bolted on. Not sure how much we are talking yet but it looks promising. Keep following the thread, we're at least having fun trading ideas.
  9. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Hmm, now there's something I didn't think of. I need to pull the long side front axle for a measurement. If it's long enough and not tapered, it might be of use. Here in swamp buggy land, everybody narrows the front ends and uses short side axles on both sides so long axles shouldn't be hard to...
  10. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Sorry Robert, I measured to the outside! Thats all we have to work with. There must be some axles out there that would be of like dia and longer. I'm going to scour the big truck yard and find something. A call to Sam Winers in Akron OH might help too. I'll get to work.
  11. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    OK, here goes and I only forgot to measure one thing. 1) Axle length from gasket surface to end of shaft is 39.375" 2) Spline dia is 1.632" 16 spline 3) Spindle ID is 1.88" 4) Front axle protrudes 2.318" from gasket surface. As a side I noted that the end of the rear axle is dished outward...
  12. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Thats my fault! I had a rough night at work and didn't get out to the truck to do the measuring. I'll be on it in the AM fer sure.
  13. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Now that makes sense! I failed to consider that we are working with a double splined shaft not an axle with a flanged end. Would 4140 be of similar strength to a standard treated axle? Since all rear axles are the same length and we can measure the distance that the front axle protrudes from the...
  14. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Robert, I can assure you that pulling one rear axle is worth the effort. Can you get stock long enough to make up an axle? I've spoken with a few axle guys that said they could make any axle and when I told them what I need, the told me they don't have product that long.
  15. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Robert, I agree with the bronze bushing in the spindle. One thing I have found is that the spindle insides are not true to the outside bearing surfaces. Wonder if these things are cast then finish machined? If so that might account for the insides not being true. Al least I've found this on a...
  16. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Robert, consider this in your design. With a single lockout on one of the rear wheel ends, everything inside will still be turning. With that hub unlocked it allows the variation in total rollout between axles. Its a little different than front lockouts where the hubs are spinning at roadspeed...
  17. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Yes the splines match, inner and outer. It's a wonderful thing!
  18. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Well Rick, you certainly can do that. Thats a lot more work than you need to do though. There is no need to despline them and you only need to install one. Unless you have spools in the back, once one axle from either rear is removed, you eliminate that inter axle bind. I haven't bought the big...
  19. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Alright, I'll get to work on that. Memory tells me the spline is 1.66" 16 spline but I'll pull an axle to be sure. Is a measurement with a vernier caliper close enough on the spindle? I don't have any internal mics or snap gauges! Kenny
  20. Recovry4x4

    was "deuce T/C ?s" nowRear Lockout and Axle Design

    Oh Robert,you're talking my language now. Yes you could do the single lockout in the rear. Arthur at M35 products offers such a thing. The axles in the rear are the same length and just too short to use with the hub configuration. I made some calls to s few friends who cut axles using the...
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