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  1. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    That's why I think a rag joint in the manual steering column is needed. That way the full-hydro is doing the driving. The rag joint keeps the manual steering from binding. But, if the full-hydro ever fails then the manual system takes over. Sure, there would be some play from the rag joint...
  2. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Man you are smart. That exactly explains why the PSC system replaces the steering arms & doesn't bolt to the tie rod. Thanks.
  3. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    He's talking about that torque multiplier tube thingy. It multiplies the torque on the existing manual steering box. Like if you had Hulk arms.
  4. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Nice, informative post. I noticed PSC had a double-ram setup on their website. http://www.pscmotorsports.com/tech/install/dual-cylinder-bracket-kit.pdf I don't know if it would clear the Deuce leaf springs, but at least it's food for thought. A custom-made steering arm that keeps the stock...
  5. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Yes, I know that. I used the word "tack" because I didn't want to start a flaming war over welding on steering components. I agree in some cases it's just silly to NOT weld something. See, I told you that steering is not my specialty. I understand now. Just make the threads on the tie rod...
  6. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    I guess because I don't know too much about hydraulic systems. To idiot-proof it from myself I'm hoping to design a 100% bolt-on/bolt-off setup. I want to leave the manual setup as close to stock as possible. I don't mind tack welding some mounts on the tie rod. I've also seen clamp on...
  7. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Does the tie rod have to be replaced with the double-ended ram? Take for example the full hydro PSC Could this simply clamp onto the stock tie rod? And have the "orbital" steering valve actuated by a gear or pulley/belt on the steering shaft? It seems to me it would take minimal torque to...
  8. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    On a side note, I didn't start this thread to rehash the full-hydro-legality issue for the 10,000th time. What I am suggesting is 100% stock Deuce manual steering, untouched, with a full-hydro system attached in parallel to it. Call it hydro-assist if you like, but I'm not suggesting...
  9. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Yes, that is exactly what I am suggesting. I'm thinking some kind of cog/sprocket/belt driven gears that places the steering valve off to the side of the manual steering column. (or inline-shaft steering valve if it is continuous through the valve & strong enough for Deuce manual steering if...
  10. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    You have an interesting system. I'm actually thinking of something even easier. A complete bolt-on ram assist that does not replace any of the stock steering system. So it would be a true hydraulic assisting manual setup. The PSC full hydro kit looks interesting. But I'm not sure if the ram...
  11. Unforgiven

    Full hydro help needed...smart math people!

    Mudguppy, Did you put a build-thread together for this hydaulic assist? I would be curious about the specifics of your install.
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