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Ive been in tms all morning i probably passed right by this looking for a drawing showing all the wires and there numbers coming to the relay sol and the starter sol .Thanks for the the post im going blind looking thru all these tms lol

Thanks im in tm -9-2320-366-34-1 still looking for the starter page i think im getting close in section 6

Ok Ok i will try that! Where can i find the schematic of the starter/relay solenoid and wiring at the starter? I have a small black wire with thin 1/2 in eyelet just laying up against the starter with i think a 58 stamped in the metal band its been that way since i bought the truck from GP

I ran a long wire from the relay solenoid up in the cab from the big post the one to the front of the truck put a meter on that wire turned the ignition key and it started reading 28 volts let off the key it goes back to o so i figured that ment it was doing its job so fig must be a burnt spot...

iM pretty sure my starter in fine i tested the starter relay solenoid on the frame beside the starter and it was good i have to use a push button jumper on the starter solenoid it self to start the truck.

If anyone happens to have it handy ? I asked the cat dealer today off of my engine serial number but he said CAT didnt ship this engine with a starter to stewart stevenson and i asume theyre not still open