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Saw rubberduck4x4 has two p400, 14k... way too pricy for me. By chance do you know the dry weight of the p400? must be more than the ol 6.5

Interesting. Whats the quality comparison between am general and dalton? if any

Will do when the time comes.

Won't be purchasing anything for at least another year... probably be all gone by then anyways. Site said 506 casting. I had a 2006 Turbo GEP, 599 casting. Very nice engine.

Did a little looking around and looks like AM General has stopped production of the p400 in mid 2018. Looks like the last few optimizers are being sold for around 7k as long block or drop in. 6-5liter seems to have a good deal on a complete engine

I'm just trying to avoid gm blocks in general, shooting for optimizer. I was hoping to find a take out on eBay from a humvee. Saw one in good condition on eBa for 3k. NA optimizer, shoulda bought it.

Yeah getting into this game too late. All the good stuff is sold off. I suppose a regular used optimizer shouldn't be too bad. Certainly a step up from GMs 6.5

P400 long block? Would love to do that. How did you get the oil pan to clear the front axle? Yeah wouldn't dream of trying to convert turbo to na.

Eventually I want to swap in a GEP 6.5 NA, but I'm not looking to slap a turbo and turn up the fuel. I would like to get one of those drop in GEPs that humvees were using to replace the old 6.2. Keep it same power levels or near same as my current 6.2, but with a better block. Objective here is...