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Ha! Funny. You have a quick wit. All good points. But rules are rules. We just cant follow rules in our practical play with mud. Gary

Whoops Whoops, stumps (respectfully, Chuck), not quite right on Archimedes (A). (Sorry to all, as this is an academic discussion and not related to our common interest in steel.) The "A Principle" (AP) applies only to liquids, and gasses. Mud is not a liquid. It is a "suspension." A suspension...

Hey, stumps, you're right. Regarding your quote, below "That means that if you submerged a tire in a liquid mud, there will be a buoyant force on the tire that is equal to the weight of a tire made out of the same liquid mud minus the weight of the tire." my initial reaction was "What the...

Never mind. I wasn't trying to contradict anything you were saying. I totally agree that if you try to drive your Deuce into the ocean, "It will sink." I could write the equation for the "sideline comment" I was making, in a frivolous way, but it would be a very multi-factorial equation that...

Same Physics What you are saying is kind of like the Archimedes Principle, which explains why even very heavy ships float and why floating icebergs do not raise the level of the sea, and why the sea level does not rise when the northern (non land mass) ice caps melt. "An immersed object is...

Simple physics. As stated by others, the more tire surface area (SA), and less weight, the better, as a generalization. If your truck is sitting still with no power to wheels, it will make less of an impression the greater the SA and the lighter the load; i.e., less mass. Under power, of...