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Please don't take this as a whine, complaint, or grumbling. But many of you have my number and email address. I can assure you, if the site is down, I already know about it. :beer:

IRC would be even better. BUT... There's a number of users here that aren't, shall we say computer savy, to try to get into something like chat IRC clients. Have to keep things as simple as possible. (I mean no disrespect by this comment either people)

I'm fine with Java. Only problem is, there's so many flavors out there and conflicts. The chatroom I have in mind is java based however. Not perfect for some users, but good for emergency use.

To clue the members in on what magic is going on behind the scenes. We're using a database copy to uplift it as a test to vBulletin V4. We're also working on a major redesign of the site (graphically). After that is squared away, we're going to start evaluating hosting the site on virtual...

Sorry folks about the outage. We're in the process of upgrading the site and had an issue with the database last night. We were not hacked. Just human error. :oops: