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If you think I'm so callous in the way I treat my truck, then why on earth do you think I'd give anyone the priveledge of using it as a parts truck? I'd just scrap it. BTW, thanks for resurrecting this thread. All of the podium stomping will commence for a few more days now.

You said speed was not in the equation. That's my only point. Can't do it using a simplified equation. Surely you understand the effect of wind resistance are substantail at 100 MPH as compared to 2 MPH. Agreed. However you extended the example to 100 MPH. It indeed will not, as I will...

First, the physics of accelerating a truck from zero to 2 MPH in 3 seconds is no different than going from 2MPH to 4MPH in 3 seconds, or 100MPH to 102MPH in 3 seconds. Speed is relative.... it is all F = MA Notice that F = MA doesn't mention speed. Acceleration=Change in velocity...

Maybe I'm spoiled driving an LDS, but it takes essentially no throttle for me to start my truck in second gear.....and pretty much no clutch slippage.

I don't mean both from a stop. What is the comparison of the stress on second gear from a stop in a 13,000# truck comparerd to a second gear shift in a loaded 23,000# truck at several MPH?

Then if the keys shear, they deserved it, end of story. Maybe so, however, I assume responsibility for my vehicles, so I'm not too worried if everyone is overly concerned for the safety of my second gear. I'm more concerned, if you want to put forth the effort, of what the comparison is...

Well, I am an officer now, and that movie wasn't called "An officer and a gentleman" for nothing. :-P

It's not the input torque that kills it. It's the torque multiplication all the way through the driveline coupled with trying to overcome inertia. I built a wicked 396 in my El Camino. It had an M-20 tranny. I sidestepped that thing so many times at 5000 rpm it wasn't even funny. Most of the...

No offense taken emr, but I have yet to see any literature from the manufacturer or the Army that states this practice can do harm. However, even if there was, anyone can break anything if they try hard enough. I'm not driving an AED (automated external defibrillator), or any other life saving...

Yes and no. It's natural tendency is to resist, however, as another person mentioned, let the clutch out a tiny bit, and it will go in. Downshift to second prior to stopping. It takes some getting used to.

This issue has been hashed repeatedly by those that do it, and by those that claim it hurts the transmission. I use second almost exclusively. Other members have been doing it for many years. Those that claim it harms the transmission, please offer some facts and not hearsay as evidence...