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My thoughts as well, however if you are doing the majority of your time on the road, I can see where having two sets of tires/wheels would come in handy, the g286's for normal road conditions, and when you are gonna go out and play over the weekend, its only an afternoon to swap them out. I just...

hey booger, after looking at your pics, and my tires, it looks like you used a wider groover, mine was with the #4 head, about 1/4 inch wide, how wide did you go?

ok, that makes more sense, I stuck with 1/4 inch since I have some tires that this is as deep as I want to go considering current tire wear. Most of the others I could go deeper, but I really dont want to fiddle with a hot iron, and I am too impatient to wait for it to cool each time I grab...

just finished another tire, but as I was grooving this one I got to thinking, how deep are you guys cutting into your tires? I am using the #4 blade and set the depth to 1/4 inch, I really dont see the need to cut all the way down into the tire.

I really dont know why you guys are crying about the ideal iron, I just now grooved my first tire with one, took about 20 minutes for the whole tire, I read and followed the instructions and no issues at all. I used pattern #4 BTW.