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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    The research is with cellulosic ethanol, duckweed biodiesel, and other plant platforms. Landfill mining is also taking place regarding methane capture, not that this is a new concept. I don't work in any of those industries but I know people who do. We might wish to look overseas for what...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Organic material, heat, pressure, and time. Lots of research into algae, duckweed, switchgrass, and other plant bases going on in this area (central NC); the next few years should be interesting to see which platform is most successful!
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Very true about heavy subsidization of the oil industry, plus the new emphasis on natural gas retrieval by fracking (while natural gas is still being flared off in the conventional oil fields--do we see a disconnect here?) I don't pretend to be an expert on Brazil, my understanding was that the...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    You may not get a straight answer from the municipality about their treatment system, but it is good to know if you need filtration, etc. if they use the chloramine method to protect plumbing and yourselves. You know that strong, penetrating chlorine odor in a badly kept swimming pool? It is...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Taking the thread in a slightly different direction, since we are talking about contamination of water by various chemicals--How many of you are on municipal water, and are thinking you may be safer than someone relying on a groundwater well? Traditional water treatment has involved...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    some of us still drive cars from the 80's and earlier so the passage of time has not fixed the problems ethanolized fuel causes in these vehicles
  7. R

    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    The corn-ethanol business would not exist without very heavy subsidization. Brazil generates ethanol fuel solely from sugar cane waste--there is a lot of experimentation with enzymatic digestion of other sources of cellulose to produce the sugars for fermentation.
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    ABsolutely...and the first Diesel engines ran on vegetable oil---peanut, I believe, back in the days when Edison and George Washington Carver collaborated. Like the saying goes, there is nothing new under the sun....just the applications change. (Also, since we're on old sayings, the devil is...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Any ethanol in boat or aircraft fuel is death; I've talked to people who have had to rip out fuel tanks and replace them with stainless steel for their watercraft. As I said in an earlier post, chemicals is chemicals, sometimes they are compatible and sometimes they ain't....
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Don't be scared, just aware. When you drive old stuff, it's not going to behave like the new fresh stuff just off the assembly lines, with computers and soothing voices coming out of the dash. I remember a few years ago, my daughter came by to visit, and left her lights on. Drained the...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Not an ethanol basher, we have no political or spiritual agenda here, but chemicals is chemicals and if the stuff isn't right for the application, it's just not right. Additives do help; worst thing to do of course is to neglect maintenance and blindly go along until a piece of equipment sh*ts...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Could be you might find a station, got to check our the site. Someone recently told me that Virginia could not legally sell ethanol-free for on-road use. Sometimes I wonder if the whole point is to get us so hooked that we have to buy brand new sh** that takes the new fuel mixtures, be unable...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Don't have a link as such, just google up "ethanol free gas stations" and one of the hits should give you the site. Be sure to call and check on the places, though: sometimes the individual stations cannot find the ethanol-free and sneak in 10%. There are some cheap (10 dollar range) little...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Can't really neutralize the ethanol, you've got to remove it. Ethanol will attract water, as well as eat up rubber o rings, corrode tank liners, all kinds of nasty action. Also, which we failed to mention re: the 2-cycle engine damage, the necessary oil will not stay in solution in gas with...
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    fuel treatment for ethonol gas

    Hello all, re: ethanol in gasoline: It was tearing the guts out of our M274 mules, and 2-cycle tools like chainsaws and blowers, etc. We found a website that lists stations in the US and Canada, by state and province, that sell non-ethanol fuel. We are in NC and there are several within 25...
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