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  1. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    I wouldn't know about the negatives but we got to 15F a few weeks ago and my truck started up fine. I needed to keep the RPM's up a bit until it started to get warm, but it still started fine.
  2. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    I agree about the need for any external help starting the multifuel. I removed my ether start system years ago. Never needed it here. Now if I lived up North like Canada or Alaska that would be a different story, but down here in the lower 48 there really is no need as long as your truck is...
  3. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    Actually "ether" is fine in any high compression engine if used wisely. Also the "intake flame heater" does nothing to the engine oil or cranking speed. It just heats the incoming air. That helps ignite the fuel quicker, but does nothing for cranking speed or current draw or oil thickness. Now...
  4. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    What, building a fire under the truck ? LOL ! Actually my father when he was working on the ALCAN highway had to put fuel in several cans and start it on fire to keep the engine, transmission and differentials from freezing. This was common practice for all the drivers to do. He once told me...
  5. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    Our buses run the "Wabesto" brand heaters. They have to run them since the engines will not make enough heat otherwise and then will not pass emissions. The problem with any coolant heater is they must be serviced yearly. I have replaced units that had actually melted the stainless steel chamber...
  6. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    You can get flames from the CAT manifold heater ! One of our mechanics used ether to try and start a CAT that the grid had failed on. At least he THOUGHT the grid had failed ! Ether can produce a really nice flame !:burn:
  7. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    Don't get me wrong, I love the Deutz engine. It is a very dependable engine, at least the ones that I have worked on. Your also right about American design diesels, but if you look at the HP produced for the cubic inches American engines tend to produce more power. Lets face it, Americans want...
  8. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    What year are these engines ? If your referring to the "electric grid" heaters Cat has been using for years then that doesn't count as they are basically glow plugs. A flame heater actually uses a "Flame" in the manifold. Diesel fuel burning in the manifold. Of course if you use "ether" on a CAT...
  9. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    I am not aware of any modern diesel engine using a manifold flame heating system. They all seem to be able to start and run just fine all around the world.
  10. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    The only problem with the old flame start system is it must be rigorously maintained ! Parts cleaned and checked on a regular basis ! The glow plugs are another issue altogether. These parts are getting harder and harder to find. Personally I would stay with the either injection. As a heavy...
  11. rustystud

    Cold start Ether kit vs Intake heater

    I like your thinking ! :burn:
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