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I'm not coming down on you- more busting your chops. In PA, that's would've put your truck on the hook. It was kind of a segway into the discussion of no profit or yours for people that don't know.

DOT numbers or not, isn't the hitch rating exceeded on the trailer? Doesn't that kinda make you feel...I don't know...like a huge liability looming?

So seriously...you just admitted to accepting compensation for the haul. You cannot accept ANYTHING in return. My buddy was one of the PA State Police guys that looked for these loads for a living and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED some guy with a commercial load claiming no compensation. His best was a...

Found this from FoMoCo- sure its CYA practice...but they did afterall design and build it. It's like the safety factors in chain or cable or even forklift capacitys...sure you're 5,000lb lift truck will lift 7,000lb but carry the steer wheels on a bump. 'If you're ever planning to tow a...

Yes, please keep us posted on what you find out. I'm still questioning how the GCWR of the truck can be overridden by axle weight- seems like you guys may have found a loophole as far as axle weights but the overall legality of it I'm not so sure about. ...especially in states where it's a...

GVWR 13,300 - payload 5260 = 8040 unlaiden vehicle weight 8040 unlaided vehicle weight + 24500 MAX trailer load (with 4.30's) = 32,540 ...basically matching the 33,000 listed below for the Gross Combination Weight rating. Payload: 4920 lbs (2011), 5260 lbs (2012) GVWR: 13,050 lbs (2011)...

What axle ratio does the truck have? Ford rates maximum towed 5th wheel varies on axle ratio. 2012 Ford Super Duty | View Towing Specifications | Ford.com

Percentages are one thing but actual scaled axle load is another. The other thing that will nail you is the actual printed Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) the manufacturer puts on the truck. You go over the GCWR and you're rolling the dice.

At some point I may try to round up a big gooseneck for the 931 so I know what you're saying.

DH, I know what you're saying but they allow that with goosenecks since if the hitch is correctly located, it's loads the rear axle of the truck safely. You'll never, ever see any load off measure on a bumper pull. A company Fayette Trailer is maybe 20mi from the farm and I check in with...

You're crazy Nevadian! Nobody does that! :mrgreen:

I think something only just touched on is that whatever the payload capacity is on the truck...that weight can be taken off the loaded gooseneck weight as it technically shares the load. If the payload capacity is 5,000lbs and and the trailer is 25,000lbs (for discussion) then you pull that 5k...