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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    If you assume that someone else is going to take care of this WI mess for you, you are wrong! Call your representative. Tell him you want your HMV's restored to normal registration status. If you live in WI, and you haven't called your representative on this issue, then you are sending a...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Pay??? I thought all I had to do was be my usual overbearing self, and people would abandon the thread in disgust. -Chuck
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Sigh! Here we go again... I already have. It is presumptuous of you to assume you are the only one that has ever fought city hall. It is not easy sticking to your guns and fighting for what you really need. Easy is compromising and settling for less than what you need just because it is...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Groan! If the bills have truly reached the point you say, then you need to vigorously fight against both of them. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin The WI law as it is now written gives you all...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    No, that is not true. The issue is statistics. If a particular vehicle has a 50:50 chance of being in an accident (for whatever reason) each time you take it out, the probability that you will have an accident grows as the number of times you take it out increases. You can calculate how many...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    This is the very thing the courts are for. Your senators should be able to help you to force WI DOT to follow competent legal reasoning. Talk to your state's attorney general. -Chuck
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Fundamentally, it comes down to the fact that your State Representatives agree with the WI DOT's assertion that HMV's are more dangerous than other HV's. This is the issue you need to work on. You need to prove that HMV's are no more dangerous to the population at large than other vehicles in...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    They will be. Quite honestly, they need to be told about the problem, and they need to start showing up at the hearings. If they don't, they are going to be in for a big expensive surprise. Neither of the proposed bills supports commercial, or even regular use of HMV's. If any of you...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    I just finished watching the video of the hearing, and I'd like to say that you guys did a great job. You were all well focused, made clear and well reasoned arguments. As to the DOT lawyer, well what can I say. I don't think he won any points with his first testimony. He had a lot to say...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    DOT's actions looked so terribly like a grudge that it is wonderful that it got out in the open. It sounds like they haven't fooled your senators. Thanks guys! -Chuck
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Here is an example of a FMVSS label. It was found on the door post of my PU truck. -Chuck
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    The FMVSS label wouldn't be on the engine. It would be on a label in the door frame (by the latch), most likely, or on a label on the body around the radiator, or maybe on the firewall. It will say something like meets Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in effect as of the date of...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    To amplify Paul's statement a touch: Each and every Wisconsin MV owner should be writing a letter to his Congressmen, both state and local, and telling them that you think what the DOT is doing to MV owners stinks, and that WI DOT needs to be forced to allow normal registration for these motor...
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