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    We need a unified voice

    I don't think this thread is about guns. As far as combat fighting vehicles, the govt. only provides an SF-97 form on vehicles that are generally road-going vehicles. Something like a Bradley never will be on-road, as it's 12 ft. wide and 50,000# GVW, just for starters. To All, Here's a few...
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    We need a unified voice

    I'd say you're mostly correct on things. But there are some assumptions that are often incorrectly made. Try these: Title49USC30112 is the federal prohibition against manufacturing, selling, or importing a vehicle unless it meets FMVSS. This (subsection B9) is often referred to as the "25yr...
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    We need a unified voice

    Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Perhaps I need to rephrase that. I fully agree that your DMV is a state regulatory agency. That means they have to administer state law. But even though your DMV is likely part of your state's DOT and there is also a federal U.S. DOT, your state's DMV doesn't...
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    Maverick, I'm not trying to say that what you're doing isn't worthwhile, but I'll be surprised if you can change registration requirements through federal action/s. I write that, because of an email I got in 2008 from Coleman Sachs, Chief Import and Certification Division, U.S. DOT - NHTSA, in...
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    We need a unified voice

    Hi WireFox, In Wis. we got statute amended such that all historic military vehicles and former military vehicles are exempted from the FMVSS Certification Label requirement [s.341.10(6), Wis. Stats.]. We also got Humvees specifically listed as eligible for Collector Vehicle registration, with...
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    We need a unified voice

    I will toss in this afterthought. There may well be something that MVPA could do to help the individual state groups trying to defend our rights. The national MVPA could provide a toolkit of relevant documents, laws, and court decisions which could be used to promote our cause in individual...
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    We need a unified voice

    The fight over former military vehicles started years ago in Wisconsin. I got dragged into it in 2007. Tom Zat, Curt Rymkus and I are still at it. So far, we've won three appeals and have gotten passage of 3 bills into law. We didn't do it alone, and owe a lot of thanks to all the in-state...
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    A couple of thoughts, from what we've been through here: The authority which sets FMVSS requirements: the Federal Govt., is the same authority that determines which former military vehicles may be resold as surplus on-road licensable Motor Vehicles, and only provides SF-97 forms for obtaining a...
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