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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    The idea that "no one is complaining" I can't understand how they can claim that with a straight face. This is all done quietly and methodically to avoid opposition. I'm a media hound and this nearly got past me. I wish I had a way to let the owners know what is going on. A letter to the editor...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    If they are claiming that Pinzgauer owners are the only ones complaining then they are either lying or ignoring their messages. Who exactly said "Jeep owners are the only ones complaining"? I included Jeep in my response along with every other US produced civilian conversion, sound's like it's...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Well I have contacted my Rep's, and have been trying to get the word out. I wish there was an avenue for contacting all the owners who are clueless to this. I would'nt be suprised if they try to interfere with selling them also. They always use the excuse that they "have not heard much...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Did they have a 97 form and the state is refusing? If they bought it without it would mean it's residue and I understand the position on that. This is behind the back of most owners so anyone you know who has one need's to be informed. Things are being mandated on the state level that most...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    I hope it's right also but am not totally convinced as I have said before this state has a knack for taking the worst fork in the road at every chance, so usually hoping for the best result's in a swift kick in the nutz. That said, going back last month my Assembly Rep's (Friske) office, view...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Today I was informed on some aspect's of this issue. As far as the Blazer's/trucks they are just that K5 Chevy, crash tested, full safety features Chevy's that happened to be used by the Military, not true Military vehicle's like a Duece or Hummer. Ones sold by the Fed Gov that are road worthy...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Look's like you snuffed this thread Stump's. Good debate should bring forth good results. Now I hear there are more issues with the DOT lawyer's brand choice. Does this guy drive a toyota? Is it not a "conflict of interest" to show that kind of bias under these circumstances? I would not...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Myself I have delved into the political quagmire going back more than 20 years. I alway's come away more dis-heartened than encouraged with every new look into this political system. I lobbied in D.C. I know it's alot of work so credit to you guys for your cause and passion. Not having an...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Yea it could become a problem, if spun the wrong way. Anyone catch the irony that the DOT lawyer used the "Toyota Carolla" as the example that all vehcile's need to comply with so they don't damage them with their tall heavy bumpers. Today it's announced that so many Toyota's are recalled...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    This state has been operating in a capacity of Redemption for some time, it's mostly apparent with the DNR "don't make waves" kind of like small town politic's on roid's. Now the DOT has shown that same capacity (showing an obvious grudge) where you could deal with them before. The bigger hobby...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    The group needed for an example of how to deal with this issue is A.B.A.T.E A brotherhood against totalitarian enactment's. Listening to that obnoxious testimony it is obvious they think every one needs to be driving a imported sub-compact and anything that is not is threatening to the...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Sorry, I did not get on here in time, had phone issue's........Could not make it with work, but if I would have known about the Kalifornia bill's I may have had to miss. I do not have the numbers I just heard it from a caller on a radio show that there were 2 bills up. This is being done quietly...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    California emmissions You folk's may want to stick around for the 11am hour. Weighing even heavier on this hobby and what's left of Wisconsin's economic stability and liberty. There are 2 bill's up trying to adopt California style emmissions standard's for Wisconsin, effectively handing control...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    It was mentioned before about driving being a "privledge", sure but your property is also your asset's and equity. Just like the comprehensive land planning we are now having to deal with it strips your equity via putting your property in non-compliance. The people of Oregon were wise enough to...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Exemption's are made for public service use so that eliminate's that side of it, however many of these employee's fire service, deputies etc. do aspire to get them for thier own use. I am lucky to still be working so it's very remote chance that I can make it. I really do feel this is the first...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Well the one I checked has a 17 digit, and a door sticker, with basic tire info, in the glove box is a more extensive sticker with the vin and option list. In the front of the radiator it has one saying it is emmision exempt but state's it is equipped with an engine that complies with the year...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    mvpp label Define that label, the ones I looked at have the standard label on the shroud and air cleaner exactly like my old Silverado. There may be something about exempt, but I cannot determine anything different from normal diesel........I hear an echo of a faint sound, what could it...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Just before reading this I finally got a call from my state Rep's office. According to what they said the standard size Dodge, and Chevy's were not involved in this. Now reading what your saying, this is not the case and they are already putting the boot's to WI dealer's. Are you sure they...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Cucv safety I have not had any official answer's to the concern if the civilian vehicle's are included in this ban, the under 1 ton Chevy CUCV's, Dodge trucks. Anything larger requires expensive insurance. I did get a response from someone on the classic vehicle side of it that felt the DMV...
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    Wis DOT v. ex-military vehicles - AB-592

    Wi 592 and CUCV From what I understand this is set to advance for a vote in late January. Any of these laws subject to interpretation to me means "if it can mean it, it will mean it". I am glad I finally found a forum with this being scrutinized. With the way this law is written if left up to...
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